Trump / FBI / Russians

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  1. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    LOL Too funny, fast blinkers weird me out.
     
  2. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
     

  3. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
  4. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
  5. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Short term pain for long term gain.
     
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  6. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Whatever helps you sleep at night. Bottom line is he is using tax payer dollars to appease his voting base, same game as Barry.

    Those farmers gonna pay back that $12 billion?
     
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  7. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Those same farmers, most of them would gladly hire migrant farm workers, and pay them lots less than documented Mericans.
     
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  8. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    #partisans
     
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  9. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I don’t need help sleeping at night, that’s what the herb is for.
     
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  10. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    I doubt it will be so simple. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

    More bailouts a-comin'
     
  11. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    US spent 18.6 B on renewable energy subsidies in 2016.
     
  12. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Tell you what, if it doesn't work out in the end you can come back and say I told you so, till then, let's keep a positive attitude and see what happens, let the results speak for them self, but you have to have some patience to see it through, fair enough?
     
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  13. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Solyndra went Bankrupt along with others primarily due to Chinese competition...
     
  14. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    No arguing that. The point was more government waste to appease voters.

    To circle back to our previous convo, THIS is why our tax system will remain so convoluted, politicians have become addicted to spending OUR money to appease those of us that agree with them.
     
  15. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    ...and 20 B on fossil fuel subsidies.
     
  16. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    No doubt...

    I do think DP made a good point that leaping to consumption tax could prove to be very disruptive. Tax system touches all corners of our economy.
     
  17. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Correct. Govt loves spending money...which I think we could all agree on
     
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  18. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    I'll save you the suspense, it doesn't work out.
     
  19. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Fair enough DP, not like arguing on here would change anything anyway.

    I hope it works out. Shit, I hope trump goes down in history as the greatest most prosperous president ever b/c that's good for everybody. It feels like we are headed into uncharted waters with the whole protectionism/tarrifs thing and that makes me hella nervous. I'm just not in a position to bear much "pain" right now.
     
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  20. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    Correct, but if you're going to subsidize, then it should be for emerging technologies with the potential for big payoffs in the future, not for old line energy tech that is already highly profitable, and fading.
     
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