Trump / FBI / Russians

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  1. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Quotes from U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III:

    "You don't really care about Mr. Manafort,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III told Mueller’s team. “You really care about what information Mr. Manafort can give you to lead you to Mr. Trump and an impeachment, or whatever."

    “We don’t want anyone with unfettered power,”

    “Enough is enough. We don’t convict people because they have a lot of money and throw it around,” he said.

    "All this document shows is that Mr. Manafort had a lavish lifestyle," Ellis said. "It isn't relevant."

    "It isn't a crime to have a lot of money and be profligate in your spending,"
     
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  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    You know my wife is part black so I would be offended if he dropped the N word or something like that, but you can't assume it's racism on that meme, sorry. I can see where you could make the argument that it is, but I could see it being a joke about something else too. I'd rather not label Lance a racist for something we cannot prove.
     
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  3. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    infowars as a legit news source? now that's one of your jokes i can actually laugh at.

    not that it matters but napolitano's first name is andrew.
     
  4. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    I agree, and that is why I asked for the meme to be explained.

    We agree that the meme could be interpreted that way, and without a good explanation (sorry, the clintons taking stuff from the whitehouse is not valid) I was left with only that.

    I'm over it.
     
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  5. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    we'll see what happens. lots of trial left to go. looks like the prosecution may not even use their star witness, rick gates who has flipped, because they have plenty of other evidence.

    this is only manafort's first trial. one more to go after this. unless he flips.
     
  6. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    fair enough. easy to resolve if lance would explain his meme but he continues to refuse to do so. let me ask you this, how do you interpret the meme?
     
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I'm not familiar with the Clinton story. Did they really take stuff while they visited? If so, then I could easily see that being the punch line of the joke. If that didn't happen, then I really don't know what it was about. You did give him a chance to explain though, so I give you that.

    I don't think he really knows what the joke is about either to be honest lol My brother runs across all sorts of memes like that and sends them to my phone all the time, half the time I'm like "what the hell does this one mean?"
     
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  8. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Is this like reverse race baiting or something?

    Anyway, the first thing I thought of when I saw it was the Obama insinuation (Does that make me a Racist?). I did not know Hillary and Bill stole utensils (that still cracks me up).

    There have been countless comedians making jokes about black people and theft and white people that can't jump lol.

    The left/Progressives have been very keen on the race bait mantra (especially during Obama terms...naturally occurring I guess, given that he was the first Black President). The Zimmerman episode comes to mind (don't get your panties ruffled shred...just a reference). The race card, IMO, is way over played and actually fuels the debate. No doubt there is racism though.

    I actually believe there is still a ways to go on the race debate. It is unfortunate. But, at the same time, we can't just make accusations without the facts. Even if the meme meant to insinuate the Obamas Stole, it was a (poor) Joke...but it was a joke right?

    I agree with DPs premise on this...
     
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  9. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    If you close your eyes and squeeze them shut, and think really hard while tapping your heals together, you will poop out the tooth fairy.

    it is obvious that this trial is a tactic to get to Trump...shoot they may even find some funny business with Trumps business. However, there does not seem to be any facts coming out on Trump colluding with Russians to change the election. If there was, I want to know...just hasn't happened.
     
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  10. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Not offended at all, just didn't find that one funny. That Ug Lee one though...I liked that one.
     
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  11. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    so making fun of Asians is okay?
     
  12. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
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    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
  14. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    so let me get this straight. you think lance doesn't know what the joke is about but he still thinks it is funny enough to post it somewhere hoping that other people that don't get it will also think it is funny?
     
  15. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    it is a common tactic used by prosecutors all the time. you get the small guy to roll on the guy further up until you get to the top. rudy giuliani has used it many times in the past when he went after the mob in nyc.

    the trial is about manafort and his alleged financial crimes. the judge has already made it clear that he doesn't want unnecessary reference to russia and oligarchs and things like that.

    why are you worried about collusion? giuliani has been saying all week that collusion is not a crime. trump also said so in a tweet. now conspiracy is a whole nother ball of wax.

    but since you and many others want to know the truth, we should let mueller's investigation follow its full course. i mean if trump has done nothing wrong then he should have nothing to worry about.
     
  16. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
     
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  17. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    Clearly you are gay (TFW) - Had to look that one up...
     
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  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Something positive...

     
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  19. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    I can't believe I have to explain this....

    The first joke was an obvious swipe at a former president painting all blacks as thieves, the other pokes fun at the names given in Asian culture and does not label an entire race as something derogatory. Pretty clear difference.

    Again, I am not against a joke playing on a race, just think the first joke Lance told was lame and not imaginative at all. If the joke has some wit and isn't just trashing as entire race, I can laugh at that. Taking the low hanging fruit of putting a banana with a black guy or insinuating blacks are thieves is a weak move imo.

    Also, when it comes to the meaning of Lances first joke. Occam's razor...
     
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  20. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011