Trump / FBI / Russians

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  1. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Seem pretty valid to me, but I guess validity is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I'm just giving you a hard time. But seriously, if the investigation was illegally launched to begin with, then any fruit that comes from that tree is rotten and shouldn't be eaten.
     

  3. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Sessions was Trump hire. Therefore a problem Trump, himself, created. Quit crying about Sessions.
     
  4. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Illegal from the launch, man idk how you draw that conclusion.

    And my point about the plausible deniability Trump would have had if he just simply asked Manafort a simple question. Manafort was again, a problem created by Trump not being a smart as he thinks.
     
  5. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Sessions boondoggled him, he knew he would recuse himself and didn't say that he was going to until AFTER he took the job. Trump has been stuck with him to avoid the political fallout from firing him. I agree with Lance though, he should have let him go immediately. It would have been ugly, but so is what happened by not letting him go.
     
  6. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Man, if Jeff Sessions can play Trump like a fiddle, imagine what Putin can do...
     
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    LOL K dude.
     
  8. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    Not just that one, but cumulatively
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    Fruit of the poisonous tree
    one of many things to come..
     
  9. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    This is exactly why this isn’t a proper investigation. All the implications of his past have proved why his investigation is leading him in one direction. It’s not even about Russia. It’s about protecting, reverse espionage, and impeachment.

    Like I said before if Trump did something wrong, I want to see it. But to ignore the other shenanigans is blantant, and I don’t like it. reminds me of Hoover and JFK.
     
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  10. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    He had no idea about fecklessness and recusal though...
     
  11. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    Rapport..
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  12. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    I think that is going to turn out to be a huge benefit
     
  13. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I see your point in previous post. I think that it is only a possibility if Congress doesn’t shift in November. Otherwise, Its too late. Mueller and company are preparing for impeachment and if dems win Congress, your point won’t matter...but, if things hold, over time I could see your theory making sense.
     
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  14. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Reminds me of Ken Starr
     
  15. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    If you really believe that then I don't want to hear crying about the MSM always bashing him then. Can't have it both ways Lance.
     
  16. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    So ignorance is an excuse now?
     
  17. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    That is also part of it (a big part) They are paving their own road/ times are changing..
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  18. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    You are just being like shred now...how is it ignorant? I expect a cogent argument from you Kyle.

    Sesh was an original supporter with proven record. He recused himself after the fact. There is no way even you saw that coming. How is Trump ignorant for choosing sesh? Without Monday morning QB talk...

    Specifically how was sesh an ignorant choice at the time it was made?

    Maybe I am missing something.
     
  19. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Yeah, Sessions was the first Senator to support DJT, so he felt loyalty to him and gave him his dream job. At that stage he probably thought he had himself a loyal supporter. So to me it makes sense why he would have appointed him AG in the first place.
     
  20. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Very different analogy but I know where you are coming from. I was referring to Hoover/JFK and Mueller’s position relative to his ignoring/hiding/reverse espionage to suppress the findings of all the shenanigans that occurred.

    I mean, I nearly despise politicians in general. I see things pretty clearly. Some of the shit the FBI is doing/done is skewed towards an agenda. The “look at this shiny object over here” tactic is ambiguous. The mass media disseminates messages in a certain light to alter the “thought” of the masses. It’s bullshit.
     
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