Trump / FBI / Russians

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  1. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    A prosecutor raiding a suspect's attorney's office does seem to violate attorney-client privilege. Now, if a person who happens to be an attorney had their office raided but is the suspect, what is wrong with that?
     
  2. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    It’s a good point. Was the raid solely to investigate crimes perpetrated by attorney? We all know the why it happened...it wasn’t to send attorney to jail. It was to piece together a case for impeachment.

    As is the point regarding the meeting Jr had SIS. Now, if it’s found that there was an international quid pro quo, that does put it in a different light. Same lights should be shined on the money, dossier, and fisa abuse too, relating to any communication with an Oligarch (I mean it’s one of Putin’s closest relationships). To me that theory smells way worse than Jr. meeting.

    Let’s get to the bottom of both...
     
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  3. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    You're welcome to your opinion. You make some valid points but I won't go so far to say she was the victim in this. I've seen first hand the young female employee gold digging on the much older CEO of my company, they ended up banging each other for a while and then it went sour and he paid her to basically leave the company and live in New York for a while. She was not a victim at all, she targeted him (among other older guys with money). It was bad for the company, so I agree with you there.
     
  4. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    I guess we'll have to wait and see what kind of info the fbi got from the Cohen raid, and how/if they use it against Trump. The only articles I have read that state that Mueller wants to impeach Trump are either opinion or speculation.
     
  5. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    Southern conservatives have it too easy, I go at it with many Liberals up here in Jersey...keeps me sharp.
     
  6. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    I've seen the same. But neither of our CEOs are/were the President of the United States. There's a big difference in power
     
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    True that.
     
  8. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Ignorant in the fact he is claiming he didn't know Sessions would recuse himself. Poor choice of words on my part.

    So in the end you're saying Sessions was a bad hire but no fault of DT because there is know way he could have known about Sessions prior. So he essentially got played by Sessions? Not a good look no matter how you spin it imo.
     
  9. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Am I missing something? I recall her explicitly saying she consented to the sex. This is a free country and if two consenting adults want to have sex, there really can't be anything illegal about it (unless money changes hands or they are related I guess). For us to speculate that she was preyed upon is a bridge to far for me. The town I live in is full of 50 something men with 20 somethings on their arm. This is human nature, some girls want an older man and every man wants a younger woman. Consensual sex is consensual sex to me.
     
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  10. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    you are putting words in my mouth and twisting the convo to what end I have no idea.

    I will speak plainly. Things changed after he was appointed. Trump had no idea that would happen. How could he? If you want to call it getting played fine, I think it is circumstantial and you are using provocative language to accentuate a point. And, I am not spinning anything.

    Whatevs…like you said poor choice of words.
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    It’s not a good look. I think DJT made the mistake of not asking him straight up what he was going to do before giving him the job. He probably assumed he was going to have his back, because until then, he showed that he did. Lesson learned, don’t assume anything.
     
  12. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    hey what about the women who said slick willy pulled down his pants and she told him "I not that kind of girl"?
     
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  13. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    My only point was if you run around saying you only hire the best and no one ever fools you and one of your first hires turns around and boondoggles you, it isn't a good look. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
  14. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I’m sure there was talk among them that if he were elected that they would pull something like this. That had to have a conversation about what if they pull a special council move on us. Right?
     
  15. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    I find it impossible to believe there wasn't. Same situation as Manafort kinda, if Trump would have asked him point blank "if the call for an investigation with Russia will you recuse yourself" and if Sessions said yes, then you have your answer. If he says no, then Trump can say he was lied to and it would have given him even more ammo to fire him as soon as he recused himself.
     
  16. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    maybe, I don't think Trump would have appointed him if he thought there was a chance that he (sesh) may recuse himself. Although, Nopants brought up an interesting point that maybe this was done on purpose...
     
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  17. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Oh I can't stick up for willy in other circumstances lol dude was a perv.

    But I also don't believe everything that comes out of Paula Jones mouth.
     
  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I don’t think Trump thought he needed to ask Sessions. I think he assumed he’d have his back knowing he did nothing wrong.
     
  19. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    I don't think that convo happened because I don't think any expected him to fire Comey. In fact, they advised him against it.
     
  20. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    That's a big mistake if that is the case.
     
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