Trump / FBI / Russians

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  1. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
  2. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    When Bernie Sanders supporter James Hodgkinson opened fire on the Republicans he targeted and nearly killed Representative Steve Scalise, I don’t recall much Times or other speculation about whether he could have been set him off by Democrats urging their supporters to get aggressive — “get in their face”; “if they bring a knife, we bring a gun” — when dealing with political adversaries.
     
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  3. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Moral high, wtf are you talking about? You make less and less sense the more you opine. Yes, hysteria is how I would describe it. As I said before, the same fear based hysteria behind the Iraq war and Obama taking away guns. How did those turn out when they were such "imminent" threats at the time? This is just the same, blaming and fearing the poor and immigrants has been a political tactic since before any of us were around.

    I am talking numbers. If unemployment is so low and entitlements are going away then why do we need to waste a bunch of money fixing something that isn't a problem. Just enforce the laws in place (which are not that ridiculous list you offered). No need to build a new wall at our expense for something that has little net negative effect on our economy. Just actually enforce the laws on the books.
     
  4. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    He was obviously sent by Trump.
     
  5. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Goes to projection, your honor. Bead-of-mercury-buoy is a hysteric ergo there is a "hysteria."

    I rest my case, your honor.
     
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  6. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Tell all the parents, friends, and family members who have had loved ones killed at the hands of an illegal immigrant that it isn’t a problem.
     
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  7. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    Now this statement is 100% result of fear mongoring... I am all for doing whatever we can to deter illegal immigration because they are a drain on the economy and take jobs from Americans.
    Making people feel they are "in danger" is crap
     
  8. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Anyone that dies before their time is a tragedy but ^^^ is a libtard mentality, worrying about the extreme minority over the masses. What do you say to the families of people innocently murdered by police? We are going to get rid of all cops? What do you say to parents of a kid raped by a Catholic priest. We are going to get rid of Catholicism? No, you say they were just a bad apple and don't represent the whole. Same here.

    Again, not condoning illegal immigration, I just don't think it is destroying our country at the rapid rate our president says it is. Seems like more fear mongering like I've seen before. Just my opinion.
     
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  9. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Weird how your arguments always devolve into just talking about me.
     
  10. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    or how about the one regarding the death toll in PR. They (media) used a study out of GWU to exploit a "higher" number to create a Katrina moment for Trump. It was so blatant. It is all about the flow of info and spin. Shred you are the biggest idiot on the planet if you don't think the media lies. I am sure Fox news lied about Hillary or Barrack too. The media = propaganda = brainwashed zombie citizens. Alrighty then.....
     
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  11. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    The Soviets were unable to harm America directly. That was accomplished by thousands of young American males who escaped the draft by fleeing to Canada during the Vietnam war. Once they were allowed to return, they entered the media, education, and politics to rewrite history, making themselves heroes, and not the cowards they were.

    The real damage of their pacifists/socialists views was in the universities. There they taught our young people to disrespect America's past. After several generations, about half of the people now believe us to be the bad guys, not the Russians or Chinese.

    In a cold war the Soviets could not win, a group of hippies was more successful in bringing damage to the country by turning the people against themselves. China has taken note and is standing by for what they see as the eventual downfall of the United States – by internal-implosion.
     
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  12. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    So draft dodgers are cowards?
     
  13. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Tell that to the father whose daughter died in his arms gasping and saying “daddy I’m scared” when she was shot by a thrice deported illegal scumbag.
    I dare you moron. Yeah I went there cause you just earned it.
     
  14. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Yes
     
  15. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    OK dumb dumb, Yeah I went there. Because you're a dumb dumb...
    I'm not saying there aren't violent illegal immigrants. But thats not the real problem with them. That is a product of fear mongoring.
     
  16. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    So we have a coward running the country?
     
  17. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    horrible logic. Deferred and dodger are two different things. Dodgers are also racist since they knew fully well that by running a dark person was most likely to be sent.
     
  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Your rationalization is flawed. One murder is one too many, if you can prevent it from happening, you should. All of the examples you list are of people who are here legally and would be near impossible to prevent because they are allowed to be here.

    Illegal immigrants are not allowed to be here so if we do a better job of keeping them from getting here in the first place than those murders don’t happen.

    Again, if we can prevent a murder from happening, we should. Even if it’s just one less murder. Focus on the things we can control.

    We as a Country have the ability to control illegal immigration with proper defense and proper enforcement of the laws.

    You can’t control what a cop does or what a priest does. But we can control whether people cross the the border illegally.
     
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  19. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    No one is arguing in favor of illegal immigration and ever has. The argument is that immigration isn't destroying this county like Trump says it is.

    So yes, you are right, we need to make sure we do not allow an overflow of illegals, no one has ever argued against that point DP. But I still stand by my opinion that the issues with immigration are hyper inflated and sensationalized to fit a political agenda. Much like the issues with Trump are over focused to fit another political agenda. Two sides of the same coin.

    Another example is the Iraq War. We could have controlled sending our boys over there to die for nothing. But instead, we succumbed as a society to the fear mongering of any muslim country to attack. How do you explain that to a father of a soldier? What part of the US or our freedom were they defending? Nothing, we took shotty info and turned it into a war drum because of the over stated fears being exacerbated in this country. Fear mongering makes us do terrible things as a society.