Trump / FBI / Russians

Still caught up with the old programming I see. How do you not see any of the good Trump has accomplished, considering how surrounded he is with power hungry goblins.

 

I am not saying Trump is running a ponzi scheme. I do think he may have amassed a lot of debt building said hard income producing assets all over the world (some of that debt may be to people not so fond of the US). His track records with debt is not a good one and especially with out his daddy to bail him out.

 

Lol you put a D next to his name and I seriously doubt you would consider him a decent person.

 

You dont know me at all.

Trump would have run as a Dem if he had to, he is breaking paradigms. Thats why I support him, no matter what letter he puts next to his name. The Repubs hated him in the beginning, remember?

 

Kind of like anyone driving slower than you is stupid and anyone driving faster than you is an idiot

 

Whatever guy, keep holding out for his tax returns lol

 

Just looking for proof to support that "fact"

 

Trump would have never run as a Dem, but no way to prove that either way. Just our opinions.

 

That guy looks like he rips lol

 

K.

 

Wasn't Trump a Democrat his whole adult life until he ran for President? Asking for a friend...

 

The whole world economy uses debt to leverage...some companies fail miserably because they become too leveraged (including Some of Trump’s endeavors). I thought you were comparing Trump and Madoff....what was your point with Madoff comparison?

 

Ellison/Avenatti 2020
“We can beat anyone!”

 

My point comparing to Madoff is that you can never know Trump's true wealth or business prowess because he won't divulge any financial information, just like Bernie Madoff. We have gone over his business failures and malpractices, he has an extensive record. So I am not willing give him the benefit of doubt without seeing some proof. That's Just me.

 

Tell your friend he has been flip flopping around parties his whole life. He was registered as a Republican as far back as '87.

 

Anybody who has achieved high levels of success has also experienced lots of failures. Risk taking entrepreneurs are gonna fail a lot but they also succeed a lot too. Nobody makes all the shots they take. Winners understand this. Losers do not.

 

This is very true.. I wouldn't say winners and losers (more entrepreneur's vs workers) but I get it...
DJT has been very successful. Even if he started off being handed millions he turned it in to billions and that is not a small feat. The one caveat is that he has really only been successful at one thing, real estate. What other successful business has he had (aside from tv)?
He was given millions and was buying real estate in Manhattan in the 70's and 80's... Without a doubt he turned a lot of dough in to s sh!t ton of dough so that is success, but it does is make you a genius businessman?
In the same sense would you call a guy that had a lot of $ (in the late 90's early 2000's) and invested in any .com stock a genius investor? Or just right place, right time, right circumstances

 

Never called him a genius, just very successful. Whether it was in one thing or multiple things is irrelevant, success at that level is impressive nonetheless. And it’s not like he’s a real estate agent. He’s a builder / developer. He has built some of the most impressive structures this world has seen. And in doing so created a massive organization around the world to support his efforts, employed thousands of people and created tons of wealth. Genius, no. He’s a winner, a hard worker, and a success. That’s how I see it.

Yeah he had a good start, but as you said, it’s what he did with that opportunity. Many people would have squandered it all and ended up broke or just simply lived off of the millions and been content with being at that level. He chose to go hard and never stop. That’s what made him who he is today, and why he is POTUS.

 

+1 I'd always be much more inclined to support someone who tries, fails, and keeps trying and finds success for themselves over a career community organizer that fostered division by race, sex, class, etc.
NYNJ is right about Trump with being handed millions. He did also have the foresight and courage to invest in what he thought was solid (real estate) and he also pursued other ventures which some did not work out. He was smart enough and knew enough about the system to not lose all of his money. From there ballooning his wealth. That's the mentality I would prefer to have in charge of our country.

I would like to be enlightened as to how Trump is any worse the BezosSuckerbergGoooglés et al, in terms of his business career. I'm sure they massed their empires completely on the up and up.

 

Totally fair but you're not addressing the debt he may be under, that is my concern with his wealth. That is my concern. He, for some reason, doesn't want anyone getting a look at any of his financials. That is a red flag to me.