Trump / FBI / Russians

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  1. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Daddy Bush & Clinton & W and Obama did it for over 25 years. Wakey wakey sparky
     
  2. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    +1
     

  3. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    this is amazing saw it on pol earlier today and was going to post
    Trump in 2016: I promise to never touch a dragon ball
    trump 2017: see above

    this guy cant keep campaign promises
    and hes definitely not an evil magician
    def not

    this makes me disgusted on many levels no sarc
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2017
  4. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2013
    As much as I don't want to talk politics, especially on a surf forumne, Trump is a swindler. Will say anything it takes to be in the limelight and do what ever he can to profit.
     
  5. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    I actually agree too. I don't really like Trump but people can't realize it's not about him. Trump represents the public's frustration in our government. The distrust of our government and hatred toward government as grown to great extremes and all for good reasons. Trump was elected to give a middle figure to Washington insiders, the government, the media, and special interest groups.

    Since he is an outsider, they will do anyting to destroy him. He is not part of the special club in Washington who directly serve corporate masters and billionaire globalists. That is why people fear him because he may actual pass laws for the citizens of this country instead of special interest groups. These people fear someone derailing their decades of riding the gravy train. This would have happened to any outsider that was elected. Trump has just made it a little easier for them with his tweets and thin skin.

    If they get Trump out of office, that is a very bad day for democracy and the people of this country. It's not about Trump but about a system failing because it has been corrupted by an unethical government controlled by people who have no interest in the citizens of this country. If this can get done, then what really stands in their way? It will just prove that people did all in their power to put an outsider into office but they can just remove him. If an outsider tries to pass laws, they can have judges interpret the constitution based on political bias. Impreaching Trump will just prove to the people really in power that nothing can stop them. Even when the public speaks and tries to do something, it will still be crushed.

    This is really a coup in the making and it's not good. It should make you scratch your head that they are fine with Pence (who has more far right views than Trump). It's because Pence plays by their rules.
     
  6. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    I do see this point. The problem is the smear campaign and investigation by everyone in Washington and the media should give us all pause. It shows when we really do get a anti-establishment president in office, he will be destroyed.
     
  7. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Trump in Saudi Arabia as a whole is a very sensitive situation. He may have contradicted himself about touching the orb or criticizing he she Obama, but if you listen to his speech he's basically in the belly of the beast telling them to change their ways. Look at the face of King Abdullah or whatever his name is. King Wahabi doesn't look all that pleased. Actually he looks a little shook.
    I'm not defending Trump cuz I have my doubts about him regardless of what some might think.
    All I'm saying is it's too early to pass judgement on the whole situation.
     
  8. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    lmao. Depends how you define liberal. Democrats were more towards liberal ideology back during the JFK years. Now the current democratic party is no where near a liberal mindset. Look up the definition. Obama and the current democrats are more like Marxists and socialists these days.
     
  9. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Yes, this is disappointing. It would have been great if the ball had a pic of Muhammad smiling and Trump skull ****ed his mouth. You see why else would people support a religion who has a prophet that believes in pedophilia, raping, murdering non-believers and treating women like garbage. Obama and Muhammad are two sides of the same coin.
     
  10. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Don't know the story behind whole glowing globe thing. Can someone give me the Cliff notes? Looks creepy and stupid at the same time.
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    It's no big deal lol All they did was officially "activate" the new Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology.
     
  12. CBSCREWBY

    CBSCREWBY Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    It's Van de Graaff Generator... It will not work on Trump's hair, because he is an android.

    Nah....Trump attended the opening of the Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology on Sunday alongside his host, Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi.
    It was a symbolic thing... Kind of like a ribbon cutting ceremony.
    Seriously funny looking, but really nothing to see here...
     
  13. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Watching it live it didn't seem as weird as the sill photo they snapped at the moment he made that stupid face lol

    I will say though, the facility is pretty bad ass looking, like something out of Star Wars / Star Trek. They'll be using it combat radicalization online.
     
  14. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    [video=youtube;eFOyCwCRTgw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFOyCwCRTgw[/video]
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Not gonna lie, I was laughing a bit on this. Ole Rex says it's not his first "Sword Dance".
     
  16. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    [video=youtube;IAAaCnGbDUU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAAaCnGbDUU[/video]
     
  17. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    No one actually likes DJT. And that's exactly the problem, which is only a problem due to where the media has taken this thing over the years. Meaning the media has made the entire shiiiite show into extended frenzied, frantic, breathless senior prom popularity contests.

    Then, said lamestream media extrapolates that popularity, or lack therof, into the litmus test for grading job performance.

    The country's Deep State personnel have taken the USA to a very bad place.
     
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  18. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Anti-Trump Democrats Invite Chaos
    If they succeed in bouncing the president from office, they may find that what comes next is even worse.


    By
    Ted Van Dyk
    May 21, 2017 5:44 p.m. ET
    WSJ
    ‘A jackass can kick down a barn,” said the legendary Speaker Sam Rayburn. “But it takes a carpenter to build one.”

    Democrats should reflect on that wisdom as they consider the special counsel now appointed to investigate President Trump’s alleged ties to Russia. In the short term, the inquiry will probably hurt Mr. Trump and feed attempts to drive him from office. But in the end the president’s attackers will pay a price.

    The political and media hysteria surrounding the Trump administration lies somewhere on the repulsiveness scale between the Jacobin excesses of the French Revolution and the McCarthy era. Thus far the public knows of no presidential action that would justify impeachment. Never mind, the crowd cries, let us have the verdict now. We can do the trial later.

    What about discussions between Trump campaign advisers and Russian or other foreign leaders? Don’t they count as high crimes and misdemeanors? No, such conversations take place all the time in national campaigns.
    What about the firing of FBI Director James Comey ? Wasn’t that suspicious? No, Mr. Comey disregarded the Justice Department chain of command and the normal proprieties of his office. He made public statements about ongoing investigations. He allowed it to leak that the president had suggested leniency for Mike Flynn, the former White House adviser now under investigation. A presidential suggestion of that nature would be neither illegal nor unprecedented.

    What about Mr. Trump’s disclosure of classified information during a meeting with Russian leaders? It’s a tempest in a teapot. The president has the authority to classify or declassify information as he wishes. I have witnessed other presidents doing it.

    What about Mr. Trump’s executive order declaring a short-term pause on immigration from countries with active terrorist movements? It may have been poorly handled, but other presidents have done similar things.
    What about all Mr. Trump’s flip-flopping? Shouldn’t a president be trustworthy and reliable? Yes, but when Mr. Trump has reversed his campaign pledges it has been mostly for the good.
     
  19. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    If Mr. Trump were a conventional president, these missteps would be shrugged off as growing pains or considered worthy of only mild reproof. President Trump, it is true, lacks the knowledge, experience and temperament for the office. His crude narcissism is grating. He has carelessly contributed to his problems with heedless public statements. He nonetheless was duly elected and should be given the leeway that new presidents are traditionally afforded.

    Critics, moreover, misread the temper of the American people. Most voters don’t much like Mr. Trump. But they like chaos less.

    I spoke recently to a Democratic group consisting mainly of Bernie Sanders supporters. Many were searching for a constructive response to the Trump presidency. They were people, as the saying goes, seeking to light a candle rather than curse the darkness.

    I suggested that they concentrate on developing alternatives to Mr. Trump’s proposals—on health care, taxes, the budget. “You mean we should help Trump?” someone asked. “No,” I answered, “you should help your country.” I was surprised by the outburst of applause that followed.

    Democrats, in their all-out opposition to Mr. Trump, are missing real opportunities to influence policy. The tax-reform debate is a prime example. If Democrats were shrewd, they would try to negotiate a grand compromise, in which loopholes are scrubbed from the code and Social Security and Medicare put on sounder long-term footing. But to get there, purposeful polarization must give way to constructive engagement.

    Trump haters disregard an old rule of politics and history: In the end, voters always choose order over disorder. Kicking Mr. Trump to the curb wouldn’t return the country to the pre-Trump status quo. It would likely bring forth new law-and-order leadership more disciplined and conservative than Mr. Trump’s.

    Mr. Van Dyk was active for more than 40 years in Democratic administrations and campaigns, including as Vice President Humphrey’s assistant in the White House.
     
  20. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    They use it to summon Lord Sauron, or Voldemort, I forget.