Trump / FBI / Russians

'Is aborting a fetus taking a life?'

IMO yes. If you don't have one a baby eventually arrives and they live their life. But to take a practical approach to it: abortion isn't going anywhere (make it illegal and the well off go to Canada and the not so go to illegal more dangerous clinics), and I do feel a woman should have the right to say if she wants to continue to be pregnant. I also feel that IMO that abortion should be illegal ONCE the fetus is able to live on its own. If a lady gets to a point where she wants to abort but the fetus could live as a baby, that shouldn't happen. Anytime before that, let it roll.

 

Code for, I am unable to follow without the use of memes.

 

Helping farmers??? More like handouts. Farmer welfare.

 

Again, those are all feelings (aka IMO). I am just wondering if it’s a fact that aborting a fetus is taking a life (your saying they would eventually live a life). I’m asking if you are ending a life when you abort a fetus. If your life ended today you are losing your life (that you could have lived...I get your opinion). But, at the moment it occurs, your heart stops beating and you are dead right?

For the record, I totally agree with you that it (abortion) is not going anywhere...

The last part of your statement above is really getting to the main debate though.

 

...or you could dodge a question based on fact with a clever response that is both a false equivalency and a negative which could never be proven. Nice try, though.

I understand the basic premise that per law, an unborn child or fetus or whatever fancy terminology one can throw around has no rights under the U.S. Constitution. I've already ceded that fact to you, remember?

My whole point was that current law makes abortion illegal, but proven science has concluded that life begins at conception. That is all I'm saying. I've even said that I'm pro-choice. Jesus Christ dude.

I'm not your enemy here, I'm just pointing out the flaw in your argument. Your responses are provocative and without much merit.

If you really want to prove your point, try to appear rational. Otherwise, you just appear to be trolling just as hard as the others that you accuse of doing the same.

 

Riddle me this. Why is a perpetrator charged with double murder for killing a pregnant woman? So, by law, in some cases its murder others it's a womans choice? I am not arguing the accuracy of your statements. I am saying that it doesnt make sense to me. In my world - Governments don't decide my morality. I dont care about the definition of "murder" as defined by the USC.

 

All valid and good questions. People that are against abortion have good arguments, but I don't think many are asking the right questions. Mainly does a fetus have rights that supersedes that of the pregnant lady? My opinion, and the opinion of the law is no. Also my FEELINGS, as I stated, is that a fetus should begin their rights once they can live outside the mother, thus abortion should not be legal at that point.

 

Comes down to rights I believe (not 100%). I think if a mother decided she wanted to carry to term and was murdered it is a double based off that. Comes down to once again the mother and what she wants.

To your statement that 'governments don't decide my morality', I would argue that is exactly the point of being pro-choice. The government should not decide what a woman should do with their body, and what a government calls immoral might not be the view of the mother. Trust me I get the point of people that are against abortion, I also get the pro-choice argument of mind your own business.

I have 2 sons and had the big V, so not my concern anymore. But I love to argue.

 

You are exhausting sometimes. We are essentially saying the same thing but from a different angle.

 

#stablegenius

 

There ya go. Now that wasn't so hard was it lol

 

I believe the unborn child has rights as well. No one gets to choose who lives or dies except in the case of unborn babies. Seems hypocritical to me. I do understand your perspective but now it's time to put this to bed and enjoy the weekend!

 

People seem to care a lot about babies before they are born, but not so much after.