Ultimate east coast longboard

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by leethestud, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. JTS

    JTS Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2010
    Lee- some good advice in here. Talking with Austin would be a great idea, I have always found him to be open and helpful - and he knows LBs
    LB crew has given a good run down of rails and bottom, he has the knowledge- his description sounds a bit like the Jim Phillips 9'6" SWT2 I have - noserides great and able to turn. The thing I had to adjust to is the softer rails do not release like a tucked or hard rail, so trying to make speed like you do on a perf LB or SB doesn't work- different ride but fun.
    PM me if you want to take a look @ it to, see how the concave/raiis are set up. Also with a single fin you want a good fin I found the Greenough 4A fin really works well - real popular in singles
     
  2. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Lee why don't you just get a gnarlaroo fatty and put your picture of andy irons on it. Both sides so you can stare at it while sitting waaaay outside?
     

  3. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    So the presumption here is that the boards are for short period swells?
     
  4. RobG

    RobG Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2010
    You should base it off of the Bing Elevator. Great beach break longboard good for turns and noseriding, I don't think you could go wrong with that shape.
     
  5. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I have a 8.0" Squirrell Cutaway fin on my single fin 9' longboard. It flexes nice and makes turns easy and still holds in slightly overhead surf. if you stay back on the drop and do a drop knee backside bottom turn ... it gives you a sling shot effect off the bottom. Works real good generating speed in wast to chest high peeling waves. Unpredictable in larger stuff, but that kinda makes it fun too. How does the Greenough 4A work?
     
  6. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    LBCrew, JTS, others... thank you! That is the feedback that I was looking for. We started on the board on saturday and she is coming along. Made Our planer sh*t the bed so that is today's new project. It's an old craftsman so I;m thinking about rebuilding her. The vibrations got so bad that I couldn't even hold on it to anymore. Anyone had any luck with rebuilding them? Are the cheap harbour freight model any good?

    Mfitz solid advice man. Thanks.

    Here's my set-up and the first cuts IMG_20130714_120520.jpg
     
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  7. EARLYTIMES

    EARLYTIMES Member

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    Oct 19, 2011
    Lee, looks like you are on the way!! Remember in lb's, less rocker = more glide. a 60/40 rail about 1 foot up from the tail will help produce tighter turns in lieu of the "sliding" feeling. Been using a 9.75" Greenough stage 6 fin in my 9-6 bing ss for awhile now, fin works well in all conditions thus far.
     
  8. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    I've been using a 9.75" Greenough Stage 6 in my 9'6" Bing too. That makes us like blood brothers, right?

    Lee dude, I'm feeling that triple stringer. That's going to come out real nice.
     
  9. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    Ok I mowed through some more foam last night. Cut out the overall shape and started removing meat on from the top. I also glued up my tail block with scrap strips of walnut, cherry, and maple. The board is going to end up about 9'5 with the tail block on it. I traced the back 1/2 of my stewart hplb and just kind of winged it at a big spoon noseriding nose. For the most part I am taking LBCrew's advice on the bottom concave and vee, and am yet to make any big decisions on rails. They are currently square so sky's the limit.

    Oh yeah, let me tell you, 3 hardwood stringers is kind of a biatch...

    Questions:

    Attaching the tail block... do you dow into the foam or just glue and laminate it in place?
    Is there special glue for foam to wood or will elmers shop glue do it?
    LBCrew... I like your idea of a concave in the top side in the tail. I am considering adding a "feature" in the rail at about 1/3 or 1/4 up from the tail to encourage the water to flow over the tail. Ever gone about it that way?

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  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Lee why'd you change your "avatar" (haha love that word)? I keep thinking you are Bubonicsphonics however he spells it
     
  11. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    mfitz was crying about Andy for some reason, so I gave him a mcgangbang to cheer him up. Now that he has had time to console, I think the new one is appropriate.
     
  12. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    I rough shape the tail the way I want it, then cut it off and block it smooth, straight, and square with a hard block. Then I use the piece I cut off to size up and shape the wood block, getting it finish-shaped, and making it slightly smaller than the cut-off end. To glue it on, I mask the foam edge with tape to keep it clean, mix a hot batch of lam resin, paint both surfaces, stick it on, and tape it to secure it until it kicks. Be sure to clean off any drips... there will be drips. Once it kicks to the B stage, peel off your tape, razor away any excess resin, and let it fully cure. Then, shape down your foam to the finished block. That's the trick to getting a perfect fit. Forget glue, etc.... hot lam resin (not crazy hot... hotcoat hot).

    I never tried a feature to facilitate water flow onto the deck. Maybe too much drag??? I just use a nice, soft rail shape of adequate volume. Remember... bigger rail volume means more "suction" force as water wraps the rail. Look up Coanda Effect for some insight.
     
  13. JTS

    JTS Well-Known Member

    231
    Feb 21, 2010
    Board looks good so far. How wide is it ?
    Props for taking on a triple stringer w/tail block as a first LB shape, thats a lot of extra stuff to deal with. Post the final shape when you are done.
    Do you have side lights in your garage or just the overhead?
    You gonna glass it yourself or take it to a shop?
    Jim
     
  14. RhodyPedro

    RhodyPedro Well-Known Member

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    Jan 24, 2012
    That's looking like a sweet start. What blank is is that?
     
  15. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    Jim,

    Thanks! It's currently 23 1/2" wide, kind of a pig, but I left some room because I havn't shaped the rails yet. Will probably turn out 23ish. The stringers are kind of a pain and a blessing, It's been really easy to measure everything out and eyeball symmetry in the shape but it sucks mowing through them 1/48" at a time.

    Just overhead lights, but there is a deck outside that overhead door so we can always open it or even drag it outside for more light. Gotta love summer solstice.

    Glassing... anyone in VB want to glass a couple boards? I have a nice shortboard ready for glass as well. If no takers I'll end up at the old seasoned factory again. They do good work but it's pricey.

    Thanks pedro, It's a US Blanks 9'8 Y. I got it through WRV / US Fiberglass.
     
  16. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Look'n good, Lee!
     
  17. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    Doneski. 9'4 x 23.5" x 2.75" Ready for glass and a fin box. long board 1 010.jpg
     
  18. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    Damn right, Lee! She looks like she's gonna be a fun one.
     
  19. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Nice three-stick, brother. They always look so classy with the wood tail blocks, too. What did you decide for glassing, and what are their prices? Just curious...

    Oh... and I got the exact same fan in my garage... the only thing that's kept me plugging away during that nasty heat wave.
     
  20. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    LB, thanks again for your advice, I followed it exactly regarding bottom and deck concave and the board looks sweet.

    I'm out of town on buidness so I arranged for my old man to drop it off with Austin in Virginia beach. Either the seasoned/ fibercraft factory has shut down or changed their number so I wasn't able to get ahold of them. In the words of my old man, "if it turns out anything like the boards in Austin's shop, this will be one fine stick". I look forward to seeing the result, with great confidence. I don't know about pricing yet, but he suggested throwing a lot of glass at it to make it strong. I'm all for it.

    That fan, heck yes, we just point that thing out the garage door and good bye hot air! Point at yourself and you will look like pauly-D. We also have a big turbine exhaust fan in the ceiling getting all of the crap out of the air.