Using Chemicals is bad. MMMMMMMMKAY?

You mean pepper spray? Better than a bullet in the head, which is what you will get in many other countries.

 

Is this treatment widespread in California? I'll be there later this week and need to know if I should pack my breathing apparatus.

You can't push an OBD1 M3 on their streets because of emissions laws, yet public servants can emit mad chemi at will. Typical. I blame it on The Terminator.

 

chemicals are awesome. no surfboards w/o em'. no wetsuits w/o em. spraying them at people...not so awesome. that pic is old. from the stupid occupy wall st crap.

pray to god we don't bomb Syria. this whole thing smells like a bunch of military industrial complex propaganda. it's already a proxy war. gonna escalate quick if US bombs start dropping.

 

all those of you who say this country has NOT become a police state, this is what you get for exercising your First Amendment rights.

 

i agree. and if cameras weren't around they'd have gotten a beating with it. cops are gnarly now-a-days. just look at the crap police depts buy spend money on. they have better sh!t then UN peacekeepers. insane.

 

Police suck, most of them at least, a few good guys out there still, but most abuse the power. People who gather to protest in public are part of the problem as well. It didn't work in the 70's and doesn't work today. You just look like an idiot with a stick and a sign attached to it, pushing it up in the air as you chant the same sh*t over and over again.

Why even bother doing something that DOES NOT work. The government will do what they want, regardless of what you and I think or do, unless we get in on the inside to make some changes. Unfortunately, most of the people who try doing that eventually get pulled over to the dark side because the temptations of power are too overpowering for most fallible humans. You don't last in politics if you stick to your guns so-to-speak and fight for what you believe in. They eventually weed you out in search of people who are willing to sell themselves out to the highest bidder.

 

Damn Emass, ES last week, Cali next week, and Hawaii in October?! Please tell us what you do for work that allows for such wonderful travel destinations.

 

Oh, and if you DO eventually end up making it to the top and are making progress, effectively changing things, even in the face of opposition, there is always someone out there that is trying to take you out (i.e. assassination).

You have to cater to both sides in order to make it to the end of your term alive and in one piece. Where are the politicians that are willing to die for their country? Our founding fathers certainly put it all on the line, but today's politicians are spoiled and don't even come close having the same values as those that came long before them.

Were they all saints back in the day? No, many were terrible humans, but many were noble courageous men who put it all on the line, in the face of death and were able to realize their dream of a free society, only to have it turn into the very society in which they left in the first place.

They are rolling in their graves...

 

Honestly that war was a lose-lose and it ended because we got tired of getting our asses kicked not because of a bunch of stubborn people with signs that chanted on the streets. You'd like to think you had something to do with that and maybe in some small way you felt like it changed something, but the US lost that war from get-go, sometimes you just have to count your losses and move on, which is what I believe really happened there. I may be wrong, but that's my opinion.

It's almost like when yell at the TV for your favorite team to do something and they end up doing it by coincidence and you feel like you as the fan had something to do with that victory (or loss, either or). As a fan it feels good to think you in some way influenced the outcome, but reality is, you're just a dude on a couch with a beer yelling at a TV.

 

To win Vietnam we would've had to kill every member of the NVA and Viet Cong(which was impossible) in my opinion. They were resolved and had been fighting for generations. Funny thing too is the Vietnamese people were fighting for the same thing we fought for, independence from a colonial power. Ho Chi Minh appealed to the United States way before they were seeking support from Russia. He was actually present at Wilson's 21 points speech.

 

It would have been impossible to win without dropping a nuke to end it all.

 

Fair point.

 

Although, without the VN war we wouldn't have some of the greatest music or classic movies of it's time that was focused around that war, so at least something good came from it, it wasn't all bad I suppose hahaha

 

Agree 100%...so influential on American culture.

 

http://thinksquad.tumblr.com/image/60649471561

 

i tell people about this all the time and they look at me like im crazy. ok...well, they were already looking at me like im crazy, but most people refuse to believe this. our military does some scary, crazy-ass sh!t.

i'd bet anything the CIA had a hand in the Syrian WMD propaganda incident. or it's all made up, crisis actors and all. it is a proxy war after all. was destined to escalate. this is what it's really about.
http://www.examiner.com/article/it-s-not-about-the-chemical-weapons-it-s-about-the-syrian-pipeline