Wave priority

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by evandj, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. evandj

    evandj Member

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    Mar 6, 2013
    Call me a nerd, but I'd like to set things straight... and it made me feel a lot better having done this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL2hw2BrVUg

    Posting this to clarify the "unspoken rule" of surfing. I've been surfing for about 7 months now, self taught. I try really hard to respect other surfers out there - especially since I still consider myself a beginner-intermediate. I'm at that level now where I want to advance and catch bigger waves while still having fun.

    This particular wave was my last one of the day after being out there for about 2.5 hours. I backed out of a lot that day letting the more experienced surfers catch them. But I thought for sure this was my wave. As you can see, I look to see if any riders are on it and after seeing no one up, I figured this wave was fair game so I caught it. About halfway through my awesome ride, this guy cut me off and as I turned around to look I fell. It was his last wave too, so I decided to calmly tell him on shore that what he did was pretty cheap and it was clearly my wave. He got extremely offended and started cussing me out. I held my ground but wasn't about to exchange punches so I explained my position and walked away.

    I'm posting this purely to see if I was in the wrong. If so, I'll accept it and become a better surfer. If not, then I'll know when to push back on waves that are rightfully mine.

    Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. sonfollowerssurf

    sonfollowerssurf Well-Known Member

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    Oct 9, 2012
    I think you may have it wrong.
     

  3. Honey Holes

    Honey Holes Well-Known Member

    58
    Dec 29, 2011
    he had priority because he was deeper than you.you probably didn't think he was going to catch it so you went. remember always look to your left or right before going and be sure no one is there. your learning everyone does it at some point.
     
  4. Onelove87

    Onelove87 Well-Known Member

    96
    Aug 8, 2012
    was he up on the wave the same time as you or did he get up once you were down the line. If he got up the same time you did then he was in the right, if he didn't then he was in the wrong but hey welcome to surfing where it is survival of the fittest.
     
  5. evandj

    evandj Member

    9
    Mar 6, 2013
    thanks for the help guys.

    I did look but saw that no one was on it.

    It seems like he wasn't up first, and in the video I think it shows that i was standing first. Hate to be nit-picking. Anyways, I thought that was the rule and will just continue to try to earn respect out there.
     
  6. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

    347
    Nov 7, 2011
    could go either way, depends on the surfers. If you are both regulars at the spot and he knows your a beginner he could have let you have it... just keep at it.. and next time you see him say hello and make a friend. Then you will be trading off waves instead of fighting for them.
     
  7. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    I think you should burn him a dvd then ask him to pay you $50 for your pain and suffering. If he doesn't I think you should sue him.
     
  8. ecoastprock

    ecoastprock Well-Known Member

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    Sep 15, 2008
    Without a doubt you were in the wrong in that situation. My advise, don't surf swami's with only 7 months experience. Go somewhere else that allows you to catch twice as many waves and not worry about cutting people off.

    You were lucky the guy let you get off with just some words after you cut him off, then went to the beach and gave him crap about it. Remember, a lot of people have been surfing for 20+ years and don't want some prick, kook with 7 months experience, a gopro and a fun shape telling them how to surf. Especially if they were just cut off on their last wave.
     
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  9. Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor

    Riley Martin's Disgruntled Neighbor Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2012
    Exactly. But kudos for cold water surfing. Its probably the only reason you made it out of the water to post the backwards looking go pro. Your mind captures it so much finer. Leave your gizmos ashore.
     
  10. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    It's pretty shocking htat you have video evidence and still don't realize that you keeked it... Just because you looked and didn't see him doesn't mean he wasn't there... If you don't see a pedestrian and run them over in your car is it their fault?
    I know I'm being a di*k and I'm sorry... But you wouldn't have had an issue if you didn't feel the need to give the guy sh%t. Even if he did burn you (which he didn't, you burnt him) why did you need to tell him off. You've been surfing a few months. It's not like you've been surfing there forever and all these newbies are showing up and snaking you.
    Next time just be cool. Especially if you don't know if you're wrong... Assume your are and apologize, you'll make more friends
     
  11. evandj

    evandj Member

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    Mar 6, 2013
    Thanks everyone for the feedback. I assumed I was gonna get sh*t for the gopro and my eagerness to surf swarmies. Like I said - this is a learning experience for me. I didn't know who was right/wrong and I'm not gonna paddle out and say, "excuse me sir, can you please explain who has the right of way?"

    I'm usually pretty cool and calm and try to make friends out there. I guess I should've thought twice about approaching him but I was out there for a while without catching many waves... and I was tired of being a pushover all day. I don't surf Swami's that often but it's fun to go out and push myself.

    Again, thanks for all the feedback. Now I know.

    -Evan
     
  12. cackedinri

    cackedinri Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2012
    with a flop like that, dude could have serious NBA potential.

    why are you at swami's if you dont know what a drop in is?

    socal sucks.

    la hoya shores, la joala shores, whatever you wanna call it, thats your spot, ev.
     
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  13. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Only a matter of time before you get challenged to a bench-off.
     
  14. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    All that aside, you look pretty good for only being at it 7 mos. That's about how long I've been at it. I try to stay off away from the more experienced surfers. Crowds aren't a problem east coast winter surfing. But I can't stay out 2 1/2 hours this time of year. Mistakes and misunderstandings happen. At 57, I've certainly made my share. Learn from them then move on. Best of luck.
     
  15. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Yankee, I was waiting for this one! Gave me a chuckle!
     
  16. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    his wave. you were in the wrong. it's only a problem if you don't learn from it.
     
  17. Treason

    Treason Member

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    Jun 9, 2012
    "Beginner-Intermediate" eh?
     
  18. Kahuna Kai

    Kahuna Kai Well-Known Member

    Dec 13, 2010
    Another one of these huh?
     
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  19. ewwoodsurf

    ewwoodsurf Well-Known Member

    65
    Oct 23, 2007
    I've been surfing for many years, all over the world, and I have to say that I don't have a very high opinion of other surfers. The majority--not all--, but many, are selfish greedy, pricks. So take the wave, eff 'm. And incidentally, I believe that the rule is that the person closest to the peak, or the breaking part of the wave, has right of way. If the other rider was behind the peak, it might not have been his wave. It's hard to see from the video though.
     
  20. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    its clear in the video that he was in the wrong. if you watch closely you can see after he is up there is a surfer already riding to his left and the wave is a right.