Wayne what would intelligent alien life mean for your belief in God?

Name one person in this "pm crew"
Also Jesus told me to tell you...let's f some whores

 

Agreed: it has become boring. Despite GitCarter's & others best efforts, waynetheinsaaaane is a dead fish.

I think that some people forget why so many of us find waynetheinsaaaane to be anathema.

So....a quick history flash.

The freak first appeared on SI Forum trolling tread after tread after tread with his "impacting the coast for hayzeus." He hijacked so many treads. That annoyed people.

waynetheinsaaaane then posted his infamous 'surfboards for children' bait & switch offer. Namely, he asked if anyone had surfboards to give to him so that he could use said boards to bring (lure) children & young adults into his sphere of influence. At that point, the Forum went into DEFCON8 with outraged & incendiary reactions to the freaky perv's twisted agenda.

The windowless white van made its appearance at about that same time. At that point, it was posting madness. The red ball mouf asspects, duct tape & doom, and so much more.

But, waynetheinsaaane was unfazed. He actually posted his real name & real address & real phone number on the Forum. Kind of a 'FU' but in sanctimonious ways.

Somewhere in this timeframe, a plot was hatched (emanating from Forum boredom) by several leading lights of SI to do a Normandy beach landing on Magic Seaweed & take out the Brits over there. waynetheinsaaaaane ratted this plot out to Simod666 & numerous SI people were banned.

By now, waynetheinsaaane was up to his, oh, 3rd or 4th different posting moniker. Partly due to Simod666 banning his ass for repeated infarctions & partly because, well, because he's waynetheinsaaaane.

Which brings us to the present day. waynetheinsaaane was spotted by a very alert SI raptor driving the windowless white van of duct tape & doom & a photo was taken & posted on SI Forum. Yes. It was it.

And so to each its own, as the fable concludes.

I could continue to nail his poseur holy child molesting twisted humanoid form to the wall on SI Forum, but what more can be said? The guy is gonna do what he's gonna do & that means hijack treads, lure the kiddies with surf gear & ignore any attempts at luring him into intelligent & rational convo.

My rig is packed, I'm signing off, getting behind the wheel & driving tonight to the-place-that-shall-not-be-named for (hopefully) a wknd of rejuvenation in the ocean & moments of intense surfing in OH stuff with a gigantic great white shark cruising around a few hundred yards away 'out there.'

Now that's what I term a soulful experience.

Stop playing pocket pool, waynetheinsaaaane. That's just for old time's HOTY sake.

 

Wayne, when will you post the video of yourself telling us about the drugs, booze, gambling, and broads that caused your downfall? Can you also post a video of yourself surfing? Thanks man.

 

See, no, Mr. Blasters, that is an extremely poor statement, dude. How long did it take for you Christians to comprehend that evolution was no longer a theory and was an accepted scientific fact, backed by an extraordinarly large body of continually piling evidence? You simply accept the fact of evolution now, because if you didn't, you would be an unreasonable fool, like Mr. Wayne.

If it's not one thing, it's another, dawg. Science proves something, and yous say it's God until it's completely illogical to say so. (Which is all of the time.)

I, for one, am all down for you being on your own path, hombre. But science and revealed religion are intrinsically incompatible, why do you think the church has been fighting it the whole dang way?

 

I agree with most of what Carter says and am a compatiblist i.e. believe that evolution and the existence of a higher creative intelligent power are compatible.

By 'evolution' though I certainly don't mean the Darwinian variety which is bankrupt as a theory.

 

Actually if you are referring to Darwinian evolution, it has not only not been proven but is also logically unprovable since it is based on a premise which is unprovable i.e. the existence of random events. In order to show that a random event has taken place one must prove that it has no possible cause... which is a logically impossible task.

Darwinian evolution can only be used as an explanation in hindsight, it has no predictive power and belief in it is an act of faith. It isn't used in science.

Only if one takes the ludicrous dogma of mainstream organised religion as the sum total of religion. If we take religion to include metaphysical possibilities in general it is not only compatible with science but in my opinion necessary for scientific advancement.

Ideally science and religion should keep each other honest.

 

I don't think that Darwin's Theory on it's own defines Evolution but it certainly does shape how certain species have evolved. Why are Polar Bears white? Haven't many species evolved to survive while others have perished and why is that?

And to Gnar's question. Sometimes when focusing on my personal consciousness, I find myself thinking about how infinite the universe/galaxy and beyond is. Humans should be humble but instead we sometimes think we have it all figured out spiritually and scientifically. Infinity and beyond...I mean wow, even as much progress as we have made in space exploration, there is no end (or is there?)!

 

That's an interesting viewpoint, Mr Roy. Something to ponder, for sure.

 

BAM... Well played.

 

Dude you're my hetero-life mate. Im going to be in Maine this weekend. Not sure where your local is but if you want to go a-whorin' I'm down.

Dude, Wayne IS Tom Sizemore.

 

Ephisian 2:2 "At that time you followed the worlds evil ways; you obeyed the ruler of the spiritual powers in space, the spirit who now controls the people who disobey God."

I am pretty sure this is not the only reference to aliens or unexplained craft in the sky....There are a lot of people who think aliens are minions of the fallen angels.......just somethin to think about buoys

 

Only if aliens had their own bible. Then I wouldn't know who or what to believe. I question my own mind at times.

 

They haven't made verifiable predictions from evolution by natural selection?!? Wow, read a book, bub. May I suggest "why evolution is true", by Jerry A. Coyne. They most certainly have made predictions that were proven to be 100% true.

When you have conversations about evolution with people, it really shows how poorly misunderstood the concept is. It's really a dang shame.

 

"Bankrupt theory" are you kidding me? All of modern biology would be down the tubes with out Darwinian evolution. It is one of, if not the greatest, scientific finds in all of history. You clearly have no intelligent grasp of evolution.

By this time, if you don't accept the fact that evolution is true, you are either ignorant, or unwilling to accept that you came from a single celled organism in the primordial sea, roughly 3.5 billion years ago.

Evolution is a FACT. There is no way around it, guy.

 

Nobody is disputing the factual processes described in the evolutionary theory that account for the variation within species, etc. This has been readily observed, and the genetic principles have been applied in fields such as the development of pharmaceuticals, hybrid plants, etc.

However, for someone to hold at arms length the assertion that these processes alone prove that we "came from a single celled organism in the primordial sea, roughly 3.5 billion years ago" should not be viewed as ignorant. Darwin himself questioned this and recognized problems, as he had concern because of the lack of transitional forms and the finding of advanced species early in the fossil record. Additionally, even with the aid of a scientist in the laboratory, they have not come close to producing life from inorganic materials nor observed "transitions" in our time. There are still a lot of dots to connect, or that have been connected that could be called into question. There are many other issues applying the "factual" aspects of evolution to origins, which I choose not to get into here, and there are many intelligent people that have difficulty with it in this application.

I'm not sure what the hostilities are about if someone does not see enough evidence to believe that these processes alone are responsible for initiating life. The fossil record does not read like a book (there are assumptions and assertions). I don't see how this adversely affects how a person lives out there life. If fact, it may even help them live better if they are persuaded that their existence is because of a benevolent purposeful creator versus a random and purposeless process. I realize that is not the argument at hand, but personally I think it is ok to be a critical thinker on things that are not readily proven. Many of the things that have been used to "prove" (or further macro-evolution) (i.e., Lucy, Piltdown man, etc.) were later called into question and found to be hoaxes. The theory of evolution continues to evolve, and there are many intelligent people who hold aspects of it in question.

 

Of course evolution happens, my point was with regard to Darwinian evolution.

Darwinian evolution is based on an unprovable premise namely that random events occur.

If it is Darwinian evolutionary theory which you are defending please demonstrate a) that random mutations ( i,e, mutations which have no cause) occur and b) that the theory has been used to make verifiable predictions.