Well done SI

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by zach619, May 27, 2014.

  1. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Do you not understand what the word PREVAILING means? Let me speak to you like a two year old. And stop misquoting me and manipulating my point.

    The winds in California are preDOMINANTLY Onshore. Period. I also stated that on average in southern california, there are, I would say a few weeks out of the year that get offshore winds.... This again is a FACT. You go and youtube a bunch of videos of offshore wind... So? DID YOU NOT HEAR MY STATEMENT OF GOING TO THE BEACH AND SEEING OFFSHORE WIND AND FEELING LIKE ITS CHRISTMAS, because of how infrequently it happens?

    Did you not see Sean's post last week, explaining how much fun he had because of this random offshore wind that came in the spring, which never happens....

    YOU. JUST. DON'T. GET. IT.

    The reason California has surf all year, is because the ground swell is COMPOUNDED with the onshore wind flow that helps increase the size. Every now and again, the wind will go offshore and groom the waves... You seem to be the only person in the world that doesn't understand that...

    AND NO GENIUS, SWELLS DO NOT DECAY FROM A BUOY 30 MILES OFFSHORE TO THE COAST LINE, THE SLOPE OF THE OCEAN FLOOR DECREASES IT.... THE SWELL IS THE SWELL AND THERE IS NO "DECAY" from a damn buoy. What the buoy does will give the formula for exactly what the waves will do at your beach.... again, YOU JUST DONT GET IT...

    GO DIE. PLEASE.
     
  2. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    SI has been fairly accurate for a long time. A few blips, but it is still my go to forecasting site. As far as Florida being offshore all the time, it is true. Even when it is blowing hard onshore, the tall condos bank the winds at the beach back offshore. If you lived down here shark hunter, which thank God you don't, you would know it is always offshore conditions, even when it is blowing onshore. Duh! And if it is blowing onshore on one side of the state, its offshore on the other, so it is ALWAYS offshore winds in Florida. I hope you're taking notes SH.
     

  3. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Condos block onshore winds? Are there condos out in the lineup? Man this **** is hilarious

    Oh absolutely I'm taking notes.
     
  4. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Read again... He did not say condos block the wind.
     
  5. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Swells, especially short period swells lose height as they travel especially when running into offshore winds. Also, common sense would tell you that since there's a shelf, it will eat away at ground swell. Then the buoy which is closer to the shelf will sometimes have bigger waves than 30 miles farther away. That's due to the shelf eating away at the wave. Also, hard offshores are notorious for beating down wind swell.

    Do you honestly believe that if you stuck a beach out where station 44097 is that waves wouldn't sometimes be bigger than in RI? Just look at nantucket for an example. Yes RI is tucked away for swell exposure, but Even on a LOT of S south windswell swells nantucket is bigger.

    http://www.stormsurf.com/page2/tutorials/wavebasics.shtml
    "Regardless of the explanation, as groups of waves move further away from their source in deep water (a thousand or more nmiles) the group becomes better defined, with waves of the exact same speed traveling together. If the waves in a wave train have sufficient energy (normally a period equal to or greater than 15 seconds), they can continue with little loss of size or energy, for thousands of miles or until they reach land and break. That's because at these periods (or wavelength) all the energy is traveling deep under the oceans surface, and there's little that can stop it (except for shallow water). A wave with a 14 second period reaches down into the ocean about 516 feet. A 17 second period wave at 761 ft, 20 second at 1053 ft and 25 secs to a whopping 1646 ft! So you can see how little impact an opposing wind wave with a 7 sec period reaching down only 129 ft would have on one of these long period deep water swells. Also, wave groups of different heights and periods can pass right through each other with no effect to each. In fact, other than shallow water or land, the only factor that causes significant decay is the surface tension of the ocean itself. The same tension that allows an insect to carefully walk on water has the long term cumulative ability to slowly sap the height out of a long period swell, but only over thousands of miles. Conversly, a short period swell is much more vulnerable to the affects of surface tension and opposing wind and waves becuase of it relative lack of energy."

    So in conclusion, shelf robs long period energy on ec and majority of our swells are of short period where they can lose height from out at station 44097 until they reach ri for many reasons listed.

    Now GO TAKE NOTES! And learn to use your brain!
     
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  6. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    You're right. LMAO....They BANK THE WIND? WTF....oh my god it's even dumber. Wow....all credibility lost with that statement. It was just such a stupid statement that I thought he didn't understand difference between onshore and offshore winds. Mind blown on that one for shizzle.
     
  7. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    You are not a good reader SH. I said the condos BANK the wind (think of a billiards table).
     
  8. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Okay, now that I know what a "locked thread" is, let me just summarize and then Micah, for the love of GOD, lock this thread.

    Swellinfo's forecasting tools don't work.
    Beach Cams will give you a 7 day forecast.
    California is Always Offshore.
    The East Coast is never offshore.
    Buoys are useless and the scientists have been wasting their time using them.
    Boogie Boarders own the southern California lineups, while surfers have to sit on the beach and watch.
    Shark-Hunter isn't a 13 year old that get picked on in school, and he actually has a wife....

    Got it. Now we can all sleep at night. The truth is out...

    Lock this mother fu**er Micah!
     
  9. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Has this guy never heard of a windtunnel affect from high rises...banking? wtf. Even if it "banked" it will still be ruined.
     
  10. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    I never said any of that, while I've numerous times directly quoted you.

    Why lock the thread? You can't handle being show what an imbecile you are?
     
  11. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Just because you haven't seen it doesn't make it not happen. We get "condo offshores" here on the regs, especailly if it is a honking east wind. It gets shot back into the lineup as offshore flow brah!
     
  12. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Ohh, crap, I forgot one.... I was "expelled" from California because I kept showing up to world class line-up on a stand up short board... They had enough of me... They said bro, if you show up here with a surfboard one more time, we are sending your ass to the Carolinas. "This is Bodyboarding Country" was the last thing I heard before being stuck in the head and waking up in the trunk of car, en route to the south east.
     
  13. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    You have show me nothing. nothing at all.
     
  14. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Please Sharky, make your final statements to me soon... I would say in about 30 minutes, I am going to join Emass in paradise...

    This is the lightening round.
     
  15. fl.surfdog

    fl.surfdog Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2010
    And again you talking about something that you are not really familiar with, in layman terms your shooting off your big mouth. How old are you S.H., I'm just guessing now, your early 20's, maybe been in the water 5 yrs., give me a breakdown of it.
     
  16. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    I'm not familiar with WIND BANKING? Man we need to get some high rises in RI too so we can get that wind banking going here. You realize the wind funnels between the buildings right? It doesn't do a 180 and blow back. There's space in between the buildings. Even when wind hits a plateau/ridegline, it doesn't go straight back, it goes up and rises. That's called orographic lift/upslope effect. It's what causes a lot of snow in the mountains.
     
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  17. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    gnarly brah! I'll have to hit it soon. I'm pm when you I'm down there bro, You can show me where the highest buildings are...that's where it's going off for shizzle.
     
  18. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    "Wind banking" should be in the swellinfo forecast just like period and wave height.
     
  19. Hayduke Lives

    Hayduke Lives Well-Known Member

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    Mar 28, 2014
    that would be a 180
     
  20. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    I fixed that before you quoted me.