so i searched but i cant get a solid answer so i signed up for this forum to ask this question. I got a suit for xmas, xcel xzip 5/4/3 and some drylock booties. I know the 5/4 drylock is fine for 30 degree water and 20 degree air, but is there anyone Rhode Island or north using this suit for full winter use? I'm comin from a 6/5/4 quikie thats like 6 years old. Sorry i know wetsuits have a lot of questions but any info on this paricular one? Thanks
5/4 is NOT fine for 30 degree water. I didn't even know it got that cold anywhere in america. I surf long island, where the water temp usually bottoms out at 37. with that water temp and air temps below 20, a 5/4 is just barely enough. so for 30 degree water i would say definitely go for the 6/5. if anything atleast buy a thermal to wear under the 5/4.
You MIGHT be able to scratch by with a 5/4/3 up there for shorter sessions....but if you are going for the extendo session I recommend goin' thicker.
just looked at the chart again 37 is also the lowest for rhode island.. sorry i just kind of estimated. I want to be out for 3+ hours when its good not be fighting the shivers after an hour
Typically, it's your extremities that get hit the hardest (almost with your head). Make sure you are packin' 7mm gloves and 7mm booties, and a thermo rashguard underneath and you should be good.
damn i got 5mil boots n im upgrading gloves soooon.. ive been wearin a 6 yr old suit that leaks with ripped (constantly leaking) gloves and boots and gettin 2+ hr sessions. hopefully upgradin everything will work they dont make 7 mil drylock boots or id have em. i just dont c how the 'drylock' suit can be that much different than the xzip u no? i could b wrong though
i stand corrected there is a 7mil drylock (damn) oh well.. also, how are people puttin gloves and boots insides suits? i always rolled up the sleeves/ legs on my old suit but im afraid of rippin a fresh suit. What do you guys do?
5mm is fine for the winter on li... 7mm mittens and boo ts.. I get cold easily and I'm good for 3 hours.. Your feet will get cold before the rest of body...
i went yesterday in rhode island and the water was 41 degrees and the air temp was 25 with a windcill of 0 or below. i have 5 mm gloves and 7 mm booties, i was in for two hours and didnt get cold.
awesome thanks everyone.. the dude a my shop just told me id be crazy to go out in a 5 mil in winter.. i think he has a ripcurl though and in my experience ripcurl runs a little thin.. thanks guys
Not too hijack this thread... but I have a billabong sg5 4/3 with a thermal vest/2mm hoodie, 5mil gloves and 5mil boots. I think its probably too cold now to use that in the ny waters... can anyone confirm? thanks
nobody on this forum or any other knows, only you can confirm..so suit up and give it a go. It totally depends on your tolerance for cold, quality/fit of the suit, and conditions on the day you paddle out. If its sunny, light winds and the waves arent macking, or its a spot where you can paddle out without lots of duck diving you might have a comfortable 2 hour session in that gear in 40 degree water
If you sit still in the water it doesn't matter what your gear is, you'll get cold. Keep paddling and up your wave count.
Updaaattee.. just took out the xzip 543, 5 mil drylock boots and gloves... i went to empty the boots after the session and literally not a drop came out. I was toasty despite the cold wind. Great combo for the area, imho.. im actually glad i went with the xzip so i dont have to worry about those ankle/wrist funnelly things getting stretched out and leaking
4/3 can be done.. I can confirm. for the last 2 years i wore an oneill mutant 4/3 with thermo shirt all winter. pulled off a 2.5 hour session in mid january. your feet might be a bit chilly in 5 mils, but a 4/3 in NY winter is completely doable. However, I will say I am glad to now have a 5/4 drylock.
I ride in a 4/3 Quik year round with 5mm booties gloves. Once the water gets below about 48, I'm usually shivering after an hour in the water. But, I'm a skinny dude and don't have much natural insulation.
i could not imagine going through all the hassle of towel changing in the snow to surf comfortably for under an hour.. upgrade bro!! maybe its just me but i surf really s***** when i get that kind of cold..
5/4/3 xcel drylock, 5mil Xcel gluvez, 7mm booteeyz, again Xcel drylocks...drylock iz thu best rubber around period. (uv course i'm obligated 2 say that cuz i'm sponsored by them) but it's true...their shiit's uh lill priceeyer, but well wurth it. there'z really no difference b-tween wrong island and anywhere northeast uv here. thu water'z 40 degreez and thu airtemps 10...