I've had correspondence with Micah before. Reasonable guy, passionate about his calling & seems to be open to constructive criticism. He know he's accountable for his prognostications. As I figured, some responses are intelligent (ex: lbsurfer), some are inane keyboard lurkers (ex: behindthesun). Also amusing: the troglodyte minds who launched & started calling me names. Sticks & stones, sparky, sticks & stones... My original post: critique of an inaccurate forecast. That's it. Professional, not personal. Did I call the forecaster names? No. Did I take his existence to task? No. Did I question his family lineage? No. Did I say the forecaster is an unreasonable person? No. Everything I typed, I would say in a discussion with the forecaster. Which is way, way more than what some of the subsequent posters could claim if they were standing in front of me. 1. Surfline: been there, done that. With all due respect, that's the place Micah used to work & those guys at Surfline have definite opinions on that (which means f*** all to me). 2. As some have noted, somewhere on the east coast they may have caught a few rides - - I did too - - but that's not the point. Re-read my post in re: forecasting instead of dwelling in your own little world. 3. And, most importantly, esp for the jackasses who bray about driving & looking & who yap about performing their own wave forecasting (as if anyone on here actually does that, spare me the BS load): if one claims expertise in something & one is sometimes in error, leading to the inconvenience & the expense of others: take accountability (I've not seen much of that here)..... ....because.... 4. Just because one volunteers to do something does not give one the right to do a lousy job of it. Although most Americans think you get the hall pass 'just for tryin'....' For those of you who have that American entitlement mutual adoration thing of 'it's ok as long as you try'...: grow up, sparky, and develop a pair.
Honestly, if you are this upset about a forecast then please leave this forum and site and don't bother the rest of us with this trolling, nonsensical blabber. Forecasting on this site, as well as others, is a tool that may be used to enhance the knowledge of persons who wish to know how the ocean is and weather is surrounding certain areas. The site does not promise that the information will be exact and people who expect this clearly should just stay home in the first place. Instead, the site states in its About page that "Swellinfo aims to produce the absolute best quality information for the user’s local area and have it all easily accessible on one page." "Aiming to produce" is not the same as "having". It is impossible to be exact every time and this is a gift that you may utilize in order to better your experience. Obviously, the only sure-fire way to know conditions is to view it yourself. Things you may, and probably do take for granted (a most of us do): tide times tide heights swell direction water temperature wind conditions weather forecasts swell height swell period For however many times a forecaster is incorrect, he is most likely correct just that many times, if not more. Data is collected and is entered in models that use history as its basis to determine the most probable outcome of certain situation. In conclusion, you would be better off searching for accountability with yourself in the fact that you trust the forecast a little bit too much.
It's a discussion of differing viewpoints, sparky. And it's being held in America: last time I looked, dissent was allowed. Just be honest with yourself: all you want to hear is your own nonsensical blabber, ergo, don't project & act all offended & demand that I leave the site just because my viewpoint is different from yours. And try reading & digesting content before you start typing. People like you....self-righteous....so eager to scream your opinion at the world... Some folks seem pretty upset: probably the same guys who throw things at their televisions or who post personal attacks on websites. I'm not upset in the slightest. You're projecting. However, if you are upset by the discussion, then leave it alone. Stay accountable, sparky...
Durr Derppity Derp Actually, I'm in the least bit upset. I love how you decided how I felt for myself and called me out saying I was projecting, which is hilariously incorrect. In actuality, I was just stating simple facts that you seem to be apparently oblivious of. I just figured I would let you know that it is ridiculous searching for accountability on one of the more unpredictable fields. And try reading & digesting content before you start typing. Try doing the same, sparky. Rant: Oh, and you can also stop using words that no one uses unless you are the architect in the matrix; instead of sounding more intelligent, it actually creates an opposite effect. This is because if you truly are smart you would realize that using those words can sometimes confuse other readers and end up slowing the conversation and the reading fluency. Disclaimer: I spoke about your words and not mine. I am not stating that I am more intelligent with writing, I am just pointing out more ridiculous things.
Now you're attacking the actual words that I utilize. I'm not utilizing words that are from a PhD program, sparky. But, if you confuse easily, maybe pictograms or drawings would be easier for you. You're so far off topic you may as well be caught in a tsunami of your own making. Your modus operandi is that you attack in a personal manner; then you deflect responses by going off-topic; then you attack again, based on what you perceive as important aspects, but which are really personal agenda aspects of your own creation. In other words, you get personal. You try to make your point using the same tactics as a female: you're all over the map, you attack in a personal framework, you leave the actual topic way behind & you like to be vindictive. You are who you are. It is what it was. You can keep on posting on this thread for all I care, but it's fried oysters to me. Enjoy having the last word, sparky. Yankee Out.
trying responding to something i say You clearly didn't read a single complete sentence in either of my posts. Not once in any response did you reply towards any points in my posts, specifically my first. AKA "You're so far off topic you may as well be caught in a tsunami of your own making." It is extremely enjoyable seeing how many contradictions you can actually create in so little words. You try to make your point using the same tactics as a female: you're all over the map, Funny how you imply I am a female while insulting the gender immediately after you state, "Your modus operandi is that you attack in a personal manner" You make this too easy. But, if you confuse easily, maybe pictograms or drawings would be easier for you. I never said I didn't understand the words, I said that you are making simple sentences more complex than needed. Once again, try understanding my post before replying, which you will fail to do. I can assume this because you implied it in your last post, unless of course you were expecting to write more incoherent, off-topic criticisms. Also, it seems you clearly didn't understand that this section was post topic, which could easily be inferred by reading the entire response. However, thank you, I really did enjoy writing this post.
Yankee - quit your b1tching and get a weather radio. You sound like a spoiled kid. Noone wants to hear it. "mom said we could go to the beach and now she says we cant wwwaaaaaaaaa" shutup. -the stud
i think if surfing is important to you you find a way to live close to the surf. i sacrifice a lot of other things to live on the island. it's called being a surfer. if it means that much to you find a way and move to the beach. then you can just check it like we used to do before surfline. i like when the forecast is wrong sometimes because it could be fantastic surf but if it wasn't forecast a lot of kooks never find out there's waves.
I agree with lee on this one. Take up bird watching which is more of a sure thing you seek. Or learn to read models yourself & make your own educated guess. If you do the latter though, you won't have the excuse of blaming others for your enjoyment.
Yep. You sound like one of those summer yuppies who always drop in because they don't feel the rules don't apply to them since they pay so much to surf. We had waves at my spot but it was closed out. Do I send a strongly worded email to the town telling them to re-contour the bottom because the waves don't suit me?
dude, something i really started to hone recently is using weather forecasts and maps to gauge a swell. like, this is my go-to site, but to try to quantify swellinfo's forecast, i'll get more info on the intensity/wind direction/swell direction from other sites to make a more informed prediction on my own. i've learned the hard way, like yourself, not to rely on one forecast site. also, you'll start to remember how certain swells do in certain locations, which is a HUGE factor in figuring out where to go.
dude, yankee, i feel your pain. i was hoping for a better dp on sunday, too, but oh well. i'm sure not gonna blame it on swellinfo. you knew you were opening a can of worms by voicing your frustration the way you did...anyway, i hope you don't let one bad session and the comments on this one thread keep you off the site. you are a master storyteller.
to be perfectly honest, Swellinfo hasn't worked out all the kinks on the tropical storm scenarios. I have been switching between 2 different approaches for tropical and non-tropical systems. Unfortunately, this storm popped up kind of quick, and I was in the process of moving (plus giving attention to my grandmother who is in the hospital). So, this particular swell didn't get the attention it need on the forecast end, where I would have applied the tropical storm approach. When we complete the transition of the forecast upgrade, these tropical storm issues will fade. But, a lot of places picked up some small to medium swell from this storm. Other places, like VB, don't do as well. This would have been taken into account, had myself and Swellinfo not been in the process of moving.
The forecast was a little off for sunday, and saturday, but if anyone was in Rodanthe on saturday after noon, they scored big time. It was ridiculously good.
