What could be worse than GMO crops?

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by chicharronne, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Oh, and your posts make me think you are Alex Jones' right hand man. Maybe you are profiting off of those links you like to share. I would also say that unlike you, I have met other members of this forum in person. Hell, I am even facebook friends with rubber dummy punching Chuck. I can send you a link to one of my patents if you need proof. I am not telling which inventor I am.
     
  2. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    *yea ya do ya handjob. you defend status quo. a scientist questions and demands answers. you are satisfied with status quo explanations as opposed to digging deeper...

    brew= weak scientist....you published brew? or just run though numbers for your automaker?

    ** a REAL scientist would NOT say 'just assume blah blah blah. he would say you are right, you have a right to know....Id like to know what genes are in our food, what was the agrochem regimen used to grow that food and any other details that a consumer could be interested in. but you state its better for people to not know and just guess/assume. wow. super scientific.

    lame fkn tool
     

  3. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I think what Brew was trying to say is if it is organic it is certified (supposedly this industry does a pretty good job at said certification) and any other product that is non-certified/not organic has a process that may or may not include GMOs (not trying to put words in yo mouth Brew). Furthermore, this has been going on ever since ya'll were eating your mushy carrots out of the Gerber Jar. Where has all the labeling been? You think GMO is the first episode in agriculture whereas the process involved chemicals that may or may not be harmful to the human body?

    Labeling and the "conscious consumer" is a relatively new phenomenon no? Gotta have the calorie count on menus etc. I think it is safe to say that if it is not certified organic something was sprayed on or around the soil that may or may not be good for the human body.

    I try to buy organic fresh veggies because of this very point and have done so since well before the GMO craze. You can argue all you want about having choice (which you do by the way), this is not the first time this has happened (good example is the artificial sweetener industry). The ag industry, Monsanto, and others will fight tooth and nail to avoid the negative connotation that comes along with labeling.

    Howz this...Do you think if a product is labeled GMO but is not organic then all is good?
     
  4. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    conscious consumer is new

    but for a scientist to say 'just assume, as you dont need to know' is foolish

    the more data the better. let people make informed choices. and if the organic, chemical free horse manure fertilized hand farmed gmo free wheat berries are 19.99$ pound, then the data, combined with my resources will make the choice.

    freedom of choice....is what you want
    freedom from choice...is what you get
     
  5. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    I believe you invented taking it up the poot chute. You patent gonad eating, and I don't want any proof of that, Puto!
     
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  6. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    What Brewshilla is saying: Don't question, just do what you're told. If you question, then you wear a tin hat. I'm an inventor of falsehoods. Just look at my facebook. Don't look at you tube tho. Blah blah blah.
     
  7. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    the more data the better. let people make informed choices. and if the organic, chemical free horse manure fertilized hand farmed gmo free wheat berries are 19.99$ pound...

    don't forget with latex gloves:)


    MIS you getting any swell from HILDA?
     
  8. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Guillermo was the bees knees, surfed some E side spots, looks like Hilda is going to pass south :(
    I was hoping for another repeat, I surfed all week last week up and down the E side, Hildas track is ok, but looks better for town, we will see a notch above tradeswell on the upper E side, but nothing like Guillermo

    not that guillermo was epic, but overhead + bowly waves, even with onshores is lovely
     
  9. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    If I fart on a plant, and it dies, does it mean my fart has herbicide in it, or does it mean the plant is not GMO?
     
  10. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Coming from you, that is a compliment. I have posted links to real research. And most REAL scientists that study GMOs are not pro labeling. Your right to know is a bullsh1t excuse, and you only use it because of your own hidden beliefs and agendas. I still call BS that you have any scientific background or education. You post like a mindless anti-establishment pawn. And no, I am not published. That isn't the line of work I am in. I hold patents, because I have spent my life working in development. I have contributed data and testing for published papers, mostly under SAE.
    I like that you lack any and all reading comprehension. You can easily contact any company and request a list of their GMO free products, as I stated before. However, if you are lazy, assuming non-organic (or products without GMO-free labelling) contain GMOs is probably the safest bet. After all, most packaged foods now a days have some form of corn (sugar or starch) in them.
     
  11. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    If you are too lazy to seek the data you want, I don't see how that is an issue for the companies producing the food. Scientists don't consider GMOs any different than non-GMOs, when talking about how they affect the body. MIS, your ability to take a side on any subject, never present one ounce of data, then belittle any person who opposes you, makes you just as bad as chich.
     
  12. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    I am blown away that you can spin this so that someone asking for data to be readily available to the consumer is the one in the wrong. I have no agenda other than obtaining verifiable information.

    refuse to believe my background all you want, it wont make it less true
     
  13. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Im wondering what would the criteria be for labeling a product GMO or NonGMO
     
  14. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    all data labeled

    in addition to nutrition info, include:
    where grown, and what practices are used (agrochem regime), as well as what is this thing: ie is it a strawberry, or a strawberries with salmon genes.

    if it is a hybrid, include that info too or in lieu of GE info.

    bring the data, let market choices set prices, honesty is best policy

    let me say that again:

    HONESTY IS BEST POLICY
     
  15. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    all data labeled

    in addition to nutrition info, include:
    where grown, and what practices are used (agrochem regime), as well as what is this thing: ie is it a strawberry, or a strawberries with salmon genes.

    if it is a hybrid, include that info too or in lieu of GE info.

    bring the data, let market choices set prices, honesty is best policy

    let me say that again:

    HONESTY IS BEST POLICY
     
  16. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    lol, i do the grocery store once a week and NEVER see people reading any label other than the price tag..
     
  17. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
  18. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Post up those pics with your pink heels on, ms. passive aggressive pseudo-cracker.....analphoniks is drooling in anticipation.
     
  19. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    zing, OMG you are so funny! you must be a big hit at parties!