What could be worse than GMO crops?

lets make them scientifically literate by giving them as much info as possible. the price point alone on organic foods is enough to make people research the difference. and if the marked doesnt want GMO's then thats a score for the smaller organic farmer as opposed to a multinational food processing company.

if I am in the store, I want the info on the label, I dont want to research my shopping trip every time I buy food. and I am scientifically literate, there are many who are not and while not fearmongers, would prefer to have an informed choice. the safety/science is somewhat irrelevant here, Maybe they have moral objections? its not for you to decide, its for the consumer to decide. your sticking point of keeping them in the dark is embarrassing for you, having to contact the company for that data is silly, put it on the label

you really seem to be a cheerleader for the status quo, its rather telling, you should be embarrassed

and that MIT piece is along the lines of an editorial with a POV, its not on point with your arguments.
even at the end she says

" let’s use labels that provide details about how the crop was grown and what is actually in the food. Let’s apply these labels to all foods, so consumers can make comparisons and draw their own conclusions about the risks and benefits of each seed or farming practice."

labeling GMO's is part of this

 

I'm not totally against GMOs per say I just hate how Monsanto has bullied small farmers and bought politicians. But, that is the 'merican way I guess. Monsanto successfully sued producers of products that were label non GMO saying it implied GMO products were bad.

 

I don't have any immediate information to prove or disprove otherwise, but I don't believe that GMO's are harmful at this time.

However, I *do* believe that the population has a right to know whether the item they are buying is GMO, so that they can make their own decision.

I believe that Monsanto is being very disingenuous by attempting to muddle the waters with their litigious antics.

 

You don't have a science degree, makeitstop, quit lyin'!

You can't even use the correct you're.

You dumb as hell, boy!

 

What about the fact that most of the research done on gmo crops is done by the very companies that sell them. We dont know if they cause harm because we are the guinea pigs. Why is it ok for them to sell a product before they know if it has any serious long term side effects.

 

you really brought a lot to the convo gnarbottom!

 

I like to think that Skeletor, Serpentor, Cobra Commander, and Mumra are sitting around a table concocting a plan to keep people sick, keep them buying pharmaceuticals, and keep them poor. Its working.

I live in Vermont. If I want beef that was raised on a big farm, I have to go out of my way to get it. If I want veggies grown in some far off place, I have to drive farther to get them. A farmer drops a box of food off at my house every week for $450 for the summer months. If I want to surf, I have to drive 2 hours...... sigh.

 

That is untrue. There is a lot of independent research, just try looking beyond the anti-GMO sites.
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ge-crops-safety-pub-list-1.xls

 

I am a cheerleader for science. You are a cheerleader against the government, so you will make any argument you can to go against something they want.
I think you took her final statement the wrong way. Your mind is in some utopian fantasy world, and your statement about small organic farms proves it. Organic crops can be GMO. There are tons of small farms that grow GMO crops. It is hard enough to feed billions of people with GMO. There are going to be big issues if everything goes non-GMO and/or organic.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/02/28/283460420/why-the-non-gmo-label-is-organic-s-frenemy

 

$450 a week for eats? What you eatin homey?

 

Food labeled organic absolutely cannot be GMO.

http://blogs.usda.gov/2013/05/17/organic-101-can-gmos-be-used-in-organic-products/

 

[video=youtube;vSapoUNZCUE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSapoUNZCUE[/video]

 

I was wrong, the crops must be semi-GMO free. Again, we are going to get into the semantics about the real meaning of genetically modified. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...nic-kale-genetically-modified-food-180952656/
However, you are not completely right about organic foods being GMO free. USDA organic is 95% or more organic and GMO free. The info I have seen only shows 100% organic foods as being GMO free, and even then trace amounts can be expected.

 

Where is the outrage over large amounts of harmful pesticides being used on organic foods?
https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html

 

You are so full of sh1t

 

Brew, it's like there is just no way of getting through to these people, dawg.

When people are this thick skulled, they will never accept scientific facts. They have already made up their mind and refuse to open it to reason and logic.

It's crazy to people like us, but something's are never going to change.

 

Orly? Go on. I made one wrong statement through pages of debate. What have you provided in this discussion. I already stated earlier why I think it is silly to single out one type of genetic modification. I swore our local organic farmers were growing GMO crops, but they are actually using another form of genetic manipulation.
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.o...agenesis-vs-conventional-breeding-which-wins/

 

If you are going to make such a "strong" rebuttal on record, then back it up with solid research. Otherwise, you are just pissing in the wind (again).