Which fin to make next? Poll

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by Roy Stuart, Nov 1, 2014.

Which fin would you like best?

Poll closed Nov 29, 2014.
  1. Log

    11.1%
  2. Fish

    44.4%
  3. Pivot

    27.8%
  4. 70's

    16.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    So, here are four fin templates which we are keen to make, I'm wondering which one is the most popular and which to make next as I'm having trouble choosing.

    The plan is to do them in 3 or 4 sizes with three different foil types, no BLEF just as drawn.

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  2. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Any SB find other than the fish?
     

  3. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
  4. reefscar

    reefscar Well-Known Member

    75
    Jul 12, 2012
  5. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Right.

    We have a variety of shortboard fins for FCS and Futures, in Spitfire BLEF and Bonzer5 templates.

    Some standard shortboard fins will have to be done too at some point, I thought that we might start with quad speed diallers.
     
  6. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    Why not make them all?

    I own a pivot style, its like 9.5. Works real nice, good at locking in on nose rides.

    I've wanted to try the log (or D style, depends who you're talkin to) for a long time. Still haven't.

    Not a huge fan of keel style fish fins. I see to be to light/small to really get them to work right. I guess they always track down the line real well but i cant turn them for the life of me.

    70's singles are always fun. Gotta love some single fin style. Everybody should own one for a while, to really learn how to get on that rail.
     
  7. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    Let me know when you crank out the quad fins.
     
  8. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Will do.

    Doing them all is a big order but we'll get there.

    The thing is that say we do a pivot fin for example. there's no point in doing just one size with one foil, Instead we do six sizes with three different foil options, that's 18 fin drawings and 18 times whatever test prints and bench test victims. It all takes a lot of time. with side fins it is even more complex due to different fin tabs and cants, plus some fins need double and single foiled options.

    So far we have about a hundred different fins but it doesn't look like that many on the shop because some are just drop down menu options. It's pretty crazy but the ability to have a large variety and custom fins is one of the main advantages of 3D printing.

    Hence my desire to get help choosing the next one.
     
  9. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

    752
    Nov 16, 2013
    well that makes sense. With the log fin you really only need one size and foil though, right? I say do that one or the single fin, just for the style factor.
     
  10. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    With the log fin a 10" and a 9" would suffice although I'll do some smaller ones as well, they could be good for mid length pintails of the early 70's variety.

    Better foiling is going to make a big difference on the log fin, most of them are very thin for their base and chord length, ( due to the usual 10mm panel plus long base length) and wind up being pretty flat sided. Some makers ( Tom Wegener and I think Jim Phillips for example, typically those with a wood core are thicker) make them thicker with a nicer foil, but overall they are a type which deserves a good foil to get their capabilities shining through. They tend to be dismissed by the 'HP' crowd as prehistoric rudders but we can make 'em rock.

    So, why not go the whole hog and do them with three foil sections, namely Eppler168, RAE102 and NACA16-012 ? We have them loaded up already, and it's a buzz having the choice.

    The log fin would be sweet in a root beer colour, we have to order a swag of material to get a new colour though.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
     
  11. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    All sorts of fins for Roy to choose from on Blending Curves. As drawn by....... Hmmmm......I think one should give credit where credit is due. How bout you?

    http://www.blendingcurves.com/temps/fins


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  12. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    Please make mine as sharp as possible. I'm about due to fug myself up again. Not that I expect to get a fabulous pair of free Roy fins for my fish. Even tho I am your biggest fan.
     
  13. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    I'd like to see a cutaway version of the Fish fin.
     
  14. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Yeah it's a good free resource. Giving credit where it is due should involve George Greenough, Steve Lis and I don't know who else... who came up with the 'D' fin and the pivot?

    How many people make speed diallers without Rich Pavel being mentioned? How many make thruster fins without paying homage to Simon? Do you get on their case? if not time to get to it, report back when you are finished please.
     
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  15. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    We'll see, everything takes time.
     
  16. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Those guys didnt poach drawings without giving proper credit.
     
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  17. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Lol so it's ok to lift a planshape from a fin like everyone does but not to use a free template resource?

    Anyway there's no name attached, so who knows who drew them?

    :rolleyes:
     
  18. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Nice idea. I voted for the keel cause I love fishes. You know if you had portrayed this side of you when you first joined things might have gone smoother.
     
  19. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Lol perhaps but it's sooooo far gone by now. Then again, everyone loves free schitt!

    I think Roy will be very pleased with the loyalty of Swellers if his wares in fact please them.