Who are you voting for? Read this first!

politics suck so do all the presidential candidates. i cant vote but still from watching the debates they all suck they dont even care about us surfers so how about a surfer run for president then ill vote for you. but none of the presidents or vps dont care about us and dont really care about us.

 

vote for the hawaiian.

 

You have to understand the concept of precedent and the role of checks and balances. Basically McCain's threat to veto all bills with pork in them is downright naive. First of all Micah is correct in the ability of congress to override a veto with 2/3 majority. Not only that but McCain has to please congress in some sense if he ever wants his own legislation passed. Third and finally pork is the precedent that has been set for getting federal funding to most state programs. McCain can veto all he wants but he will pretty much spend four years getting nothing done for himself.

p.s. Obama did some surfing when he was in Hawaii from what i understand.

 

Interesting thread. All I know is that whether you like it or not, Obama will probably be the next president. I've been following this website where you can place bets on who you think will win the election for about the last 12 years and it hasn't been wrong yet and has Obama with a SIIICK lead. http://www.intrade.com/ Anyway, that is money speaking right there and money talks louder than opinions. Alot louder.

 

wow. So because you think it a precedent and naive that pork barrel spending is to be accepted? So we just keep spending like mad and raising taxes to pay for it?

 

Obama's a kook benny!

McCain is a robot! because of the injuries he spent in captivity. duh.

It's all about how each individual sees the world. If for one am not a socialist/marxist! I do not believe in taxing the rich corporations any more then they already are. Corporations don't pay tax increases, they just charge more for the goods and services they provide......therefore it's the consumer "middle class" who essentially takes this tax burden. Plus how are you gonna keep big corporations who provide thousands of jobs here in the U.S....they'll just leave for foreign soil where they'll get tax breaks for coming there to provide jobs!

what say you?

 

there isnt even proof that obama is born in the us

 

guys this is a surf forum not a presidential debate between surfers if you wanna talk politics got cnn.com or one of those political places. but keep these forums surf related.

 

I don't think you should accept anything im just tellin you how it works, and that i doubt McCain, despite all his idealist talking can fix something with simply vetoing every bill that he sees.

 

obama is all about change...what change? he never really tells us what kind of changes. can't changed be bad? spreading the wealth around won't give any incentive for people to try to become more wealthy. well what i mean is that people below $40,000 are better off than people that make 50,000, so why would they want to work harder and try to do something in their life if they get everything for free. you gotta work for what you want, you cant just have the american dream handed to you.
mccain is a ****ty presidential canidate, but hes better than obama. and i think plain might do some good.obama has no idea what hes even talking about, he just says what people want him to say.
what ever man i can't even vote.
let's just surf

 

uhh whoever fixes all this ****... then i dont care and ill just go surf anyway

 

while you guys were "debating" i just got in a nice longboard sesh at 48th st. clean knee high walls. Its all good now!

 

wow you seem kind of star struck! Just because he's a celebrity doesn't mean that his opinion is God! Remember, he is a human being after all. Stand up for you own opinion please...

btw to all of you who are poo-pooing this thread, i think its awesome!! Its great to see such heated debates!

 

oaky listen guys this is a surf forum not a debate hall. also why waste all your time talking politics when we all have better stuff to do than talking about politic s-t. finally if you want politics turn your tv channel to cnnor msnbc those are the politic places not a surf foirum. also all of you need to get a f-in life if you do politics. and just vote for who you want not what celebrities are voting for.

 

are you even old enough to vote???
i voted for Ralph Nadar... that way, whoever gets elected, if they screw up, no one can blame me!

 

yes i am old enough to vote. NOT. and besides with all this economy crap thats going on who would wanna be president thats to much pressure.

 

Not true...if McClown wins by 2% and Nader got 4% of the vote, believe me the democrats will once again blame Nader voters for skimming off the liberal vote. It happened with Gore in 2000.

By the way, pretty cool that you guys get to vote early...we've got swell, work, and votes to deal with tuesday.

Love Pensacola pier also by the way..scored some sick lefts there few years ago.

 

Wow, there are plenty of good reasons not to vote for Obama but I don't think you named a single good one despite rambling on incoherently for more than my entire computer screen. You bring shame to yourself and to the Republican party with this nonsense.

 

Agree. Hopefuly nobody really takes that original post seriously.