Why don't we spend more time discussing fitness and nutrition?

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by Toonces, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. HelpHelpLetMeOut

    HelpHelpLetMeOut Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    That is the new educations
    cant wait for the new infrastructures to be build on snowflake feelings and microagressions
     
  2. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    After reading this thread I now know why we do not spend more time discussing fitness and nutrition, because it's boring as fock! You want to stay fit, go surfing and don't eat crap food. The end.
     

  3. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
  4. eatswell

    eatswell Well-Known Member

    978
    Jul 14, 2009
    Don't consume more calories than you burn per day, it's that simple.

    Calorie surplus = weight gain

    Calorie deficit = weight loss

    Obviously, nobody eats an identical amount of calories every single day, unless they're really fanatical and meticulous about thing. I personally do my calorie counting by the week and not by the day.
     
  5. zagaff3r

    zagaff3r Well-Known Member

    251
    Dec 30, 2016
    It's working for me man.

    I found this website: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto

    It was the top search result. And that's the only resource I've used.

    Between injury and dirty water and infections from injuries and dirty water, I put on a lot of weight this winter. On 3/13 when I started keto I weighed 217.8lbs.

    "Daddy, you're fat." my kid's füćking brutal

    Yesterday I weighed 202.6lbs and i've dropped two pants sizes and my board shorts all fit again. I'm aiming for 185-190; which is damn skinny for me. At which point I'm going to go to the Ballast Point tasting room and drink about 15pints. They don't serve food there, but you can bring your own, so I'm gonna bring a pizza. Get your own.

    I'm not counting calories, I still drink whiskey, martinis, and vodka/gin/diet tonics, the only exercise I get is still surfing.

    all I did was cut the carbs and all the sugar. The first two weeks were rough. Worse than quitting smoking. I haven't had a cigarette or a cigar in 11 years. Started when I was 14 and I still want one everyday. Would rather quit smoking again an 83rd time than go through sugar withdrawal. Keto flu, sore throat, no energy. My surfing suffered for a solid week. Now though I have a lot more energy and with the high protein diet, I'm putting on a lot of muscle mass. I wish I'd been more disciplined with my diet back when I was lifting hard core and rolling back in my 20s. Hindsight.

    Maybe I won't go to Ballast Point.

    Dinners look like this:
    Bacon, artichoke Alfredo with sweet peas on red cabage

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    Last night it was a broccoli, zucchini, Italian sausage casserole with marinara topped with mozzarella and parmesan.

    Breakfast, 3 cheese omelet with pork sausage.
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    Salads look like this:
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    Oh wait, no. Salads look like this:
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    Needed ham n cheese. Some Spanish goat stuff i think. And blue cheese dressing
    Nevermind, that's smoked gouda

    Best part is, Sunday my kid was all, "Daddy, you're skinny!"

    Low carb too!

    https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/alcohol
     
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  6. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    That's impressive, Z, impressive.

    You dumped beer, too, cause of the sugars in the suds...?
     
  7. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Thanks Gaff, I'm checking that out now. I'm already pretty low-carb\low-sugar, since I'm hypoglycemic, but anything that can help I'm willing to try. Biggest thing that f'd me up over the last year was taking that f'ing prednisone crap over and over, in addition to all the other f'ing meds I had to take, and not being able to surf or get much exercise at all.

    Been off it for a while now and slowly getting better, now if the dam pollen would stop trying to kill me I can get back on track, hardcore.

    Thanks again man.
     
  8. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Man I miss red wine. I had to give that up as well, too many migraine triggers. It sucks, but better than the alternative. Enjoy one for me, hermano.
     
  9. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest


    For what were you being treated, if you do not mind my asking? With prednisone, that is, asthma?
     
  10. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Chronic sinus infections and at times cluster headaches. They go away, they come back. I'm taking allergy shots (just went up to a new vial today) as they tested me for 42 diff things and I'm allergic to 41, so that's one of the root causes for the sinus infections, which then trigger the cluster headaches. Also if my blood sugar drops it's a trigger as well, which is why I've pretty much sworn off booze and try to avoid sugar and carbs.

    Naturally the allergy shots will take a while to fix things, in the meantime I'm just trying to fight it and stay healthy as possible.

    I had my head roto-rootered in 2014 and that helped, but the root cause is still there. Use a neti pot every day, sometimes multiple times, esp this time of year, and take claritin+flonase+montelukast+azelastine daily.

    Also take preventatives for the clusterF*Ck headaches, and have a host of meds that I use when it goes nuclear. My goal is though to get to the point one day when I don't have to take any of this crap.

    I know you have an extensive background in these areas, so any advice you can give is most welcome.
     
  11. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2013
    dewd, if you don't mind me asking, how frequent are your sinus infections?

    reason I ask is, I get at least two a year between oct-mar and get the antibiotics after suffering for 3-4 weeks and drs saying, "try the neti pot" (I tell them if they come over at 4:30 AM and get all the shyte ready for it to be poured, sure, i'll do it - it's a huge pain in the a$$)

    a couple years ago they sent me to ent...he did the spray novacaine up the nostrils and then threaded a camera up in there to see what was going on and he said my septum was very slightly deviated, but not enough to operate on

    so anyway, i'm always looking for ways to avoid the routine dr visits, as long as it doesn't involve that stupid neti
     
  12. Clownface

    Clownface Well-Known Member

    747
    Jan 24, 2017
    Holly carp, grown men who can't figure out when to take antibiotics. I got an antibiotic connect so I don't need to suffer from 1st world problems. If your lymph nodes swell it's more than likely you have a bacterial infection. If you keep being stupid and not using antibiotics when it's necessary when you're 80 the infection will spread and give you pneumonia, and you will die. Without penicillin life expectancy would be like 40. So stop giving me the antibiotic taking them will build up bacterial resistance nonsense, and worry about #1. I think you people are getting dumber by the minute
     
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  13. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Here's how the last cycle went down. Fall allergies started in late Oct-Nov, soon as I think the sinus infection is coming on, off to the ENT, he sends the camera up the nose, confirms the infection, get antibiotics, take for 10 days it goes away. About 2 weeks of being ok, then it starts again, back to the doc, camera again, yep it's back, then judgement call to do anti's or go straight to steroids depending on how bad it is. 10 days of that, then another couple weeks of a-ok, then the cycle starts again. By this time it's usually straight to the roids. This went on until Feb. Been off the anti's and roids since, but now with allergy season it's war time, and doing everything I can to not get back into that cycle of anti's and roids.

    Last year that didn't work, and it drug on into May\June. Things finally got better in July\Aug\Sept, then in Oct \Nov is when it started again. Rinse\repeat. So I get a few months a year during summer, then it starts over again.

    So far this allergy season I haven't gotten the infection, maybe the allergy shots are finally starting to work. But not in the clear yet. Staying positive.

    As for the neti pot, dude, that's easy. Use distilled water, drop a couple pinches of kosher salt in, (doesn't have to be exact, you ain't baking bread), and nuke it for about 20 secs. Your nuker may vary. Just enough to take the chill off so it doesn't sting. Takes me about a min to get it ready. I swear by that thing. These days I'm using it like 3-4 times a day. I can blow my nose all day and not get anything out, but if I use that thing I get all kinds of nasty stuff out.

    Use the neti, hit the ENT early, don't wait, and hopefully you'll be a lot better off.

    Good luck, hit me up if got any more ?, but that's the gist of it.
     
  14. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    I take the anti's and I don't wait to go to the ENT. See above.
     
  15. zagaff3r

    zagaff3r Well-Known Member

    251
    Dec 30, 2016
    Yeah. The carbs actually, but same idea. Avoid them both for the time being. You have to eat some carbs; but you're supposed eliminate all sugars.

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    I could use a lagunitas. Get me 2 as the feller said.

    Still feeling banged up since I texted this mornin; but gonna go check the spot. Whacked my shoulder hard last. two good wipeouts on mean close outs.
    Why is water so hard?

    Peace out brudda

    On a side note, my TJs had Hibiki Suntory in stock!

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    YUM
     
  16. Clownface

    Clownface Well-Known Member

    747
    Jan 24, 2017
    It's also important to keep a variety of antibiotics, docs like to only give amoxicillin because they are more scared of pseudoscience normalized by modern medicine. They would rather let you rot
     
  17. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Yep, my ENT doesn't give me the same anti's, he switches it up. Can't take amoxicillin or augmentin, mild reactions to it. Ok with other stuff. This ENT is pretty top notch, I fired the first one. No offense, but he was a clown.
     
  18. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    That looks delicious. Never had that (or any jap whiskey for that matter). What's it like? On the rare occasion when I can drink whiskey anymore I tend to go for McCallan or Elijah Craig reserve.
     
  19. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Seems as if you are smart enough to have sought help from an allergist/ENT. Most do not.
    I would like to make a suggestion that is "out of the box". No drugs. Travel, if you can fly (sinus problems may preclude that). Altitude can offer relief of symptoms. Studies were done years ago that showed patients in the higher Alps found immediate relief. Sinus infections as you describe are cyclical, right? Travleing to higher ground, above "tree-line" can serve to BREAK THE CYCLE if you can stay at such a location for 2 weeks or so. Allergens at such altitudes are absent, or minimized at least. If I had CHRONIC allergies, I personally would try it, but then again, our lives differ...jobs, family, obligations etc.
    I suggest you try a PubMed.gov search and see if you can find those studies. If you find it worthy, travel to Colorado Rockies, or Mt Rainier, get above the tree line, stay at a lodge. Expensive, yes I know, but it may suffice to break the cycle to give your body healing time.
    A friend of mine is an allergist/pulmonary doc--he see a definite relationship between blood sugar levels and asthma. Is presently involved in study to investigate that. BTW, your doc is smart to include montelukast--it covers a specific pathway of allergy that even steroids fail to cover adequately (leukotrienes).
     
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  20. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    All joking aside, I learned a LOT just from that one paragraph - - this moron says thank you, Barry. Seriously.

    Had no idea of the altitude thing, nor the blood sugar - asthma thing.