Where were you in Rhodey during Cristobal? Nearly every break was rocking. It was consistently closing out you say? How and where? I got stoked for nearly 5 hours on waves that were peeling for the most part. Does my avatar pic look like a closeout? Sorry you were at this abnormal break that was closing out while all others were purely macking (saw pics of many other breaks there). I've had that thought and moment multiple times in different situations. Very sobering. Gotta ask, how long did you stay out after the calves cramp or did you just head out in that gnar knowing they were going to cramp? Because in the rare situations mine do cramp up (usually in bigger swells at the end of several hours of sessions) I take it as an immediate sign that I've now got to head back in because it will only get worse. Just like in winter waves when I start to shiver - you've got 10 minutes before it gets ugly. 5 to get to the beach and another 5 to get to the car. Agreed on the sticking up for your schitt. However, you have no idea what a ribbing is compared to what I got here in my early days. To say the haters are going easy on you here is an understatement. You're also getting several quality responses and many different ideas and points. There are only so many viable answers you can get to a question and you're basically getting all of them. The way this forum (and most cliques in society) works is that if you pay your dues and stick around here long you'll start to get more people willing to invest time in responding to you. Just like the longer you're at a break the more you're waves you'll get. The responses you received were a wide assortment of legitimate and accurate info that should more than satisfy your initial inquiry. For a guy that doesn't regularly post here with frequency, the forum was being a lot nicer than it usually is bro. As for the other haters, they were being pretty mild and weren't outwardly offending you on a personal level. Helps to ignore them especially if you're getting more than you want from others. Many treads I started early on were pure ribbing and no good responses, you're doing fine bro. Lastly, you're coming onto the forum of a surf forecasting site for detailed medical advice. Not the wisest endeavor and it's not likely to end well. Some cats on here might not have their GED while others are very smart but not doctors. You also mention this happening while you play basketball. Sounds like it's no longer in the surf athlete maintenance category and far more medical. Go to a sports orthopedic or a skilled physical therapy clinic. They've seen it all.