I support 'local surf shops.' Includes WRV. Might get a board bag for less money on dogfunk.com? Yes. I have stayed local. I stopped by WRV VA B last week. Was looking for boards & board bags. Selected a board bag on my own, because after 10 minutes of being ignored by WRV staff I figured it out on my own. Selected a board bag, unhooked it & brought it to the counter. And then waited 5 mins. I know it was 5 mins, because I clocked it. Where in this world of gringo North American consumerism does anyone wait 5 minutes at a counter to purchase goods? WRV. That's where. The worst was yet to come. As I'm standing there at the counter, waiting, looking at bars of wax & assorted whatevers, an employee, approximately late 30's, named 'Shane' appears. "That it?" he grunts at me. I say excuse me? "Is that it?!" Shane states with a bit more eff you in his voice. I say, well, I'd like 3 bars of warm water wax & 4 bars of cold water wax. Shane slaps the wax on the counter & says that's $ 81.45. I say, uh, I'm guessing that you're not one of the owners? Shane: "huh?" Me: well, I'm not hearing much customer service here in your customer service business, and I don't like the way you just barked at me "that's it?." Shane says, "Don't know what to tell you, man." I say, well then, could I get a bag for the wax? And I hand him a Benjo, he hands me my change, doesn't say thank you, nothing at all, just stares at me like I don't belong there in WRV & like I'm not welcome at all. I finally break: I say, "I gotta tell ya, you're a jackass." Which, Shane is. A Jackass. He's destroying a business that someone built. He's pissing on the job opportunity that whoever owns WRV enabled him to have. At the very least, Shane is in the wrong business. Shane is unhelpful, totally rude, & does not understand client service as a business. I own a service business. I would never stand for this treatment of my clients. If I heard it, his Manager would have to restrain me from firing his arse & from firing his staffer's arse. Our clients will be treated as gold, nothing less, always ! This guy Shane would be in re-training in 2 seconds. If he didn't get it, it he didn't want to get it, see ya, find a job with the county government where people really, truly are just marking time & collecting a paycheck & screwing businesses with higher taxes. I have heard from other friends & associates that their experiences with WRV mirrors mine. WRV must be creaming the tourists for the 90 day rack-it-up spell every summer. My experiences with rusty.com, whiskeymilitia.com, dogfunk.com, and many other online retailers is friendly, professional, helpful. Hello, WRV...?! That's what retail is, you clowns. I would not return to WRV, and I would not recommend WRV to anyone. No wonder the 'local surf shop' is getting its arse handed to itself via the Internet shops.
I've had similar experiences with them and I try to avoid WRV unless no one else has what I'm looking for. I went in the other day to pick up a pair of sidebite fins. The first sales associate was great, very helpful and friendly. Went back about an hour later to pick up a set of rear fins for a quad setup and the guy helping me acted like he didn't want to be there and was doing me a favor waiting on me. Customer service is becoming a lost art. I'd much rather give my money to Freedom or Surf and Adventure.
I don't think I know Shane... but I can say that WRV employees Geoff and Dave are both super-cool, first rate guys. If you ever decide to give RV another shot, seek out either of these two guys and your experience will be 180 degrees from that which Shane provided. Hopefully Les or one of his managers will see this and set things straight. I can second what VBWaveski said in that Dave Shotten and all of his crew at Freedom have always been welcoming and super helpful.
Xtreamly board in Dartmouth Ma. has excellent customer service if your ever in Southern mass check them out!
No, I didn't seek out the manager. I was pretty steamed at that point. I figured that leaving would be the wiser course of action, before I ran my mouth & said things I couldn't take back. I don't actually need to correct or repair their business model for them, meaning if they are screwing up in the client service aspect, it's their business funeral. I didn't employ that arse. WRV did. I did send an email to the attention of the owner, via the WRV website. I don't expect a reply. Because a business that tolerates an employee like 'Shane' is a business that doesn't care about anything except bottom line profits. And that's not a biz that I'll spend money with. Ever.
So, this is positive, good stuff. Let' change the thread from how lame WRV is to how good some shops really are. Any other positive board shop experiences? I'm all for keeping it local. Not a big fan of anon Internet sites, no matter what the price is.
WRV is local. IF you are having trouble with the employees, Call the 757 number and ask for Dave. He is a good guy and has been around since I was a kid. He is either manager, owner, something, but definitely a lifer. Seasonal help, on the other hand, is sometimes shady. These guys are "too cool" for a real job. They are $10/hr celebrities. "I F**king run this place, kook". Let them have their fun. I wouldn't let it ruin your day any more than the b***h on her cell phone at the counter in the filling station. If you want a circle jerk at the counter go to Freedom surf shop and buy a $40 tee shirt that looks like it came from a yard sale... I mean, "I don't know what to tell you, man."
Except for the 80 dollar boardbag you just bought - AFTER being treated with disrespect by that idiot.
Need the bag for a trip that's coming up fast; didn't feel like digging around on the Net / local shops, again. As I stated, I sent an email to WRV in re: the d*** they have working the counter. It's over, as far as I'm concerned.
Good service is still hard to find. You would think that in these tough times where people are generally more selective as to where and how they spend their money, businesses would focus on their service practices to compete with the other guys. Surf shops are the worst. I have one mentality when walking into a shop, and that's go grab whatever I need and gtfo. I'm over the attitude and bad service. Before I go in and make a major purchase, I'll just do my research so I don't have to end up talking to one of the lazy and unknowledgable punks they hire and screw up with my head since I can be so easily distracted. There's only one shop here where the owner himself runs the register, and I talk with him for 15-20 minutes whenever I'm there. It's small and he doesn't have everything, but it's where I go to get the basics: wax, leash, ding repair, rashguard, etc.
yankee....everytime i go in there (4 times total) it's been the same thing...the employees have no clue about anything they sell...they literally read the descriptions of theboards off the sticker. Also, they had no idea on any of the brands of boards in their used selection and said " we don't know other brands, just ours". I got a nugget from them and when the guy was putting on my new traction bad, he accident tore a chunk off it and acted like it was no big deal.."you still want it?" no i do not want to pay full price on a torn traction pad....and i paid straight cash on it and he said he would get me a deal and gave me 15% off the pad i did actually buy...place is a joke. The board is nice though. I wish i could order it online and just pick it up at the shop without having to talk to anyone.
oh and i much prefer freedom than wrv. they're employees are super nice and informative, and the owner actually works and talks to the customers. minus the annoying summer time surf camp, their shop is legit.
S-Fish...that's a classic tale....I don't know what the owner of WRV is like, but if he's like everyone else who runs a service / retail biz in the USA, he's gotta be scrambling to find quality employees. It's tough to find people who want to work, let alone work with a positive attitude. I really like going over to Austin Saunders surf shop in VB. Cool guy, passionate about surfing, will spend as much or as little time with you talking, looking, designing boards as you want. First time I met the guy was at his old shop, kind of like a Quonset Hut structure on the outskirts of town. Within minutes he was giving us a tour of the place, letting us check out the blanks, the wood that he was using to make alaias, we were there for over an hour - - and this was when he was in the midst of making boards, so he took time from his day for us.
In any customer-centric business it starts at the top...if ownershipgeneral management accepts and/or ignores shoddy employee performance then that's the level of service you'll undoubtedly receive. And WRV VB is a classic example. Their owner is what he is...
Brave New World in Little Silver, NJ. Guys who work upstairs in the board and "equipment" room are extremely knowledgable and helpful. I have seen BNW get a bad rap on here in the past, and to be honest, just bought a used board with my nephew down in Point this summer, and the guys did not give us the time of day. Went there off the suggestion of the guys in LS because have a much bigger used board inventory. Not in a rush to go back to Point Pleasant, but Chris and the guys in Little Silver are legit and great to deal with.
Ryan at 17th Street in VB. A true waterman across the board...very knowledgeable and has a great deal of experience in the industry. He runs the Strawbridge location, but should be running the whole show. WRV, I don't think Dwayne would stand for that incident.
It's a shame to hear about your WRV shopping experience. Every shop is going to be different, as every head is going to be different. WRV is one of the larger East Coast labels and I hope that they "fix the glitch" to ensure continued success.