WSL Drug Testing - 'Cmon

lol "druggies or corrupt" some of the best surfers i know smoke a **** ton of weed, same thing with all boardsports. One of the crazy Brazilian dudes I was staying with on the North Shore would only do tow in surfing above 25 foot faces if he was a little stoned because it "calmed his nerves". Personally I wouldn't do tow in's that big, and if I did i would be sober, but who are we to judge his personal choice that apparently works for him, in conditions that are far out of our own league?

Are you a druggie everytime you take some random chemical a doctor has prescribed you, despite not knowing all of the side effects because there's less then 50 years (maximum) of clinical testing done on it?

Are you a druggie because you smoke weed to offset the negative effects of your chemo or radiation treatment?

Also some of the most successful people (financially and intrinsically) do the same. What you said sounds like something out of early 90's DARE brainwashing propaganda.

I guess your perspective changes when you live somewhere where buying weed is as simple as going to the liquor store, and magically enough Armageddon hasn't befallen it, just higher (pun) funding for the local school systems.

 

Bravo!!! Spoken like a true Bernie supporter.
Jealous?
Most pros grew up in places with world class waves, were freakishly talented and supported by companies at an early age, grew up in surfing families/communities, or had the drive to get out of the hellholes they lived in. Very few came from truly rich parents. In fact many grew up in broken homes and had nowhere else to go but the beach.
No one owes you anything and nothing is free.

 

All of your thoughts are indeed self-protctive and corrupt because of the drugs you inhale. Which is fine with me if that is the avenue you choose to take.
An example of your corrupt thinking is your example of a radiation patient a s a justification for your drug influenced thinking. That is a different world, AND, importatnly, there is absolutely ZERO EVIDENCE that it works as you state any better than Pepto Bismol for nausea. Again, corrupt thought process on YOUR part, not mine.
My perspective comes from being sober. I wasn't always so, but have been for about 40 years now. You will get there as well, hopefully, in due time before it is too late. Enjoy it while you can; I did.

 

Wow, some truly idiotic statements and tons of ignorance. I think we need some good waves to give everyone a break and clear our minds.

Or...

Eat a cheeseburger or chicken cheesesteak, that is guaranteed to make you feel better!

 

been off the herb for a large chunk of time now due to my occupations potential to drug test me during fire season so my thoughts are indeed sober.

I have personal evidence of marijuana helping chemo and radiation patients during terminal cancer. My Ma got the cancer back in october and got put on a regime of chemo. She couldn't eat, and because of the steroids she couldn't sleep for weeks at a time without massive amounts or lorazipan or sleeping pills. Finally she begged for a medical card, and the doctor obliged. From that point on it was two hits from the vape pen, a big meal, a movie and 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep. No more sleeping pills or mood stablizers necessary.

In addition, The lady in the chemo chair next to her put CBD oil on her tumor nightly and it shrunk it size ridiculously, especially once she stopped showing up at her chemo treatments. Her husband owned the mechanic shop/gas station next to my house and she ran the business. I talked to her about it everytime i filled up my tank. I always thought the medical thing was charade and loophole until i saw it benefit my closest family member in a time of terminal illness.

Check yo facts son. The herb has hundreds if not thousands of years of clinical testing and trials, pepto bismol has less then 100.

 

Your evidence is all, without exception, anecdotal. Does not pass scientific scrutiny. Science is the golden standard, not anecdote.
Glad you aren't smoking while at your specific job. It is dangerous enough of an occupation.

 

Oh Barry, I do believe it was you that mocked me for using science to base my argument concerning nutrition.
Just sayin.
And Trevolution, Medicinal and Recreational are two different things and one does not validate the other.
Don't get me wrong, I followed the Grateful Dead around for a solid 3 years and have done it all except for the very hardest of drugs, and I've surfed high on everything pretty much too. Yeah it can be fun, but in the end its just a crutch. Surfing gets me high, watching the sunrise gets me high, helping others and seeing their happiness gets me high. Life in general gets me high. After practicing yoga and meditation for over 10 years now the focus, clarity, and increased level of perception pretty much blows away any drug IMHO. The argument that some of the most successful people are stoners is weak. Yes a mushroom high can be beneficial and can increase your level of perception, destroy the ego, and make one realize who they truly are, but continual frequent usage will only hold you back in the long run. Kelly Slater and Bruce Lee as examples didn't reach their full potential with the use of drugs.

 

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No I did not. I ridiculed what you think is science. Sesame Street dietary thinking is not science.

 

So Arch, I always sorta poo poo'd yoga. I personally have a very regimented stretching and breathing program ( more for my back and general dexterity than enlightenment).

Anyway, on my Indo a trip, I spent 12 dayz with a guy who truly lives it. Yoga, stretching, meditation, diet ( he ate fish and eggs but not meat), and just an overall positive mental state (side note, he did partake all week and does so as a daily....da herbs). He really had an impact on me ( no gay you suckas).

I'm gonna dive into some reading....not so much the yoga but enlightenment in general. I can see value in how it might help with ones disposition. Any books you would recommend?

 

So what's science? What FDA approves? K now..

I feel like this conversation is a circle

 

totally is. And yoga is essential, yoga and meditation twice a day for a minimum of half hour has been my routine for a few years now. Also a quick one on the beach every time before i surf.

Once again, i find myself concentrating on the poses and breathing alot more if i burn it down first. To each his own, weed could be a crutch to enlightenment just as a car is a crutch to going to the super market. Sure you could walk, and it would probably be healthier but driving is way easier.

 

Plus you're driving a tesla. Nice on the yoga, I haven't looked into it yet. But the herb helps with perspective

 

Not going to get to deep into this conversation. But I second the yoga/meditation thing. Iv smoked and done basically every other drug out there except for heroin. Hippie drugs not drug addict drugs. I'd smoke before everything I did. Multiple times a day for years and years. My new job does random drug testing. I still smoke from time to time anyway but we're talking one hit every now and then.

Yoga and meditation give me that same head space I was getting while high, but with more clarity and satisfaction. It's hard to put into words, but to anyone who's been thinking about giving it a shot, I highly suggest it. Especially for surfing. I'd smoke to be loose and calm my nerves or whatever. I still get that feeling, but without that fog

 

i find pink Floyd helps

 

I know what you mean about the herb and yoga, but I'm talkin deep deep meditation. Mantra meditation for an hour at least, first thing in the morning before the sun comes up. Going into the woods for a couple of days with only basic necessities, sitting under a tree for hours. Deep profound experiences, complete with visuals, without the fog, and enlightenment that lasts forever, not the kind that wears off until you puff again. The car analogy is weak. There is no fast track to true enlightenment. Starting my practice was the hardest thing I've ever done. To truly be able to free your mind of all thought takes years of dedicated practice and discipline. You cant criticize it if you have never done it. I've done both and there is a big difference between intoxicated and sober enlightenment. If you have ever read up on meditation it requires a high degree of discipline. Read some books by Bruce Lee. Its all about discipline discipline discipline. Not much discipline is needed to burn some grass.

 

I started off with books by and audio from Thich Nhat Hahn. Easy rads and easy application instruction towards practice. Since then I moved onto mantra meditation. The best and easiest way, I've found, to learn this was from youtube tutorials. The first mantra meditation and one i still do today was So Hum. But the one that has the most profound effect on me was the Sikh mantra Sa Ta Na Ma, or Sat Nam, or better known as Kundalini. It has brought me to a new level of perception and changed my view of the world. There are all kinds. Zen, Buddhist, Transcendental, Third eye meditations, and Mantras from different sects like Krishna, Sikh, Shiva, etc, but yeah Thich Nhat Hahn is a good starting point.
I never got into guided meditations. They always seemed too distracting.
Good luck with it JayD. I'll warn you, it's fukin hard at first.

 

I still poo poo yoga.
I figure it this way--if surfers do it, surfers being a bunch of morons, then yoga must be moronic and a fad as well. Now, yogurt is a different story.......especially cherry flavored!!!

 

Then yoga has been a fad for over 5000 years.
Oh Barry

 

Archy is right. Meditation ain't easy. It's allot more than just sitting there. To really truly clear your mind of all thoughts is a tough feat. In the end it's well worth it. You got to really want it and be dedicated to truly experience it