wtf should i do with my life?

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  1. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

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    Nov 1, 2012

    The Civil War was all about Power...never about Rights. A bigger bully pushing a smaller bully around. the civil rights of blacks never entered the mind of these power hungry megalomaniacs.
     
  2. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    in fact, there is some evidence to suggest that Lincoln had plans to ship the freed slaves out of the country when the war was over.
     

  3. EastCoastBoast

    EastCoastBoast Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2013
    actually rcarter, i did civil war reenactments for 7 years.. i think if theres anyone who knows what its like to actually live during that time its me unless theres someone else here who' done em. but still the history books are written by the winner hence the war was about slavery. but that just isn't it, is it? there are way too many factors to specifically say what the main cause of the war was. therefore its easier to label it with a broader title hence the war was about states rights… thats what it comes down to.
     
  4. EastCoastBoast

    EastCoastBoast Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2013
    I've heard about that.. pretty sure the united states purchased land in africa for it too (correct me if I'm wrong) imagine how different life would today
     
  5. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

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    Nov 1, 2012
    this is half true/logical...The Southern States always had markets awaiting for them in Europe, but as always The Feds at that time were protectionist with Commodities and other Ag by-products and it hurt Southern exports to foreign buyers. The Feds just wanted to ratchet up control on more and ever more economic activity in all corners of the growing Empire. The South eventually didn't like what was coming down the pipe with regards to growing Federal power and shrinking States Rights. They chose to get out and try their own brand of theft and slavery and weren't allowed to by Lincoln. he wanted to keep all those slaves for the USA.
     
  6. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    I am not a descendant of any slave nor slave owner. And I am not full of any excrement.

    Any color of slaves would have suited the southern man ....keep your head ..don't forget what your good book said....southern man.....oh sorry, I get possessed by Neil Young at times....Anyways, the south's slaves were African, and they were that way not because of availability but because they were considered subhuman.

    Soooooo, what other issues besides slavery were the southerners rebelling against? People keep trying to say that slavery had nothing to do with the civil war, but, yes, yes it did. THE WHOLE DAMN SOUTH WAS INFLUENCED BY IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER....

    Southern change...gonna come at last now your crosses are burning fast...southern man.......OK Neil enough already already...I'M TRYING TO PARTAKE IN DISCOURSE ON A SURF PREDICTIN' WEBSITE FORUM !!!

    And yes, besides his right wing leanings, PUMP is always right......Lincoln isn't the great humanitarian hero the nation makes him out to be. He felt Africans were a lower species of man and wanted to send them to Panama. That's a true story.
     
  7. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

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    Nov 1, 2012
    Liberia...he was not an abolitionist. he was for settling blacks in Liberia
     
  8. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Sugar was too good a business back then... they would have been shipped straight to the Caribbean and/or the public told they were taken back to Africa when, in fact, they were taken to the Islands to slash sugar cane.
     
  9. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

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    Nov 1, 2012
    Liberia was the Country! And Lincoln wrote about how it was only right to pay slave owners for their "loss of property". I kid you not. wow sure makes the devil sound like a Saint
     
  10. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    And BBG's and MIS-13 visions of history are skewed by their hatred of the federal government. You know, like, partial .....like biased even. AHHH man I just love the smell of idealists in the morning.

    Michigan boys...Michigan......They have quite a few good anti-federal militias up there. Oh yeah, you guys don't stand-up for your convictions. I forgot. Never mind.

    And you know why none of my ancestors were slave owners? Because I'm a friggin mick and none of my people were here before then. So nanny nanny boo boo stick your head in doo doo.
     
  11. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

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    Nov 1, 2012
    I agree with you about Lincoln man. He was the devil in Disguise. and the country was Liberia. Its amazing what creating heroes like Lincoln to worship will do to a populations ability to think rationally.
     
  12. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Panama........
     
  13. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    PANAMA-A-A-AHH

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    Sorry, couldn't resist...
     
  14. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Dude, white people thought everyone not white was subhuman back in that period--even other white people of certain ancestries.

    I would like to see some sort of proof that slaves in America were black because of their skin color and not because West Africa was the CENTER of the WORLD's slave trade at that time, thus the most available.

    Oh crap, let's not forget those owning the trade on that side of the world were not Americans. Americans were the consumers of the slave trade, not the producers.

    ...and unfortunately Africans are STILL enslaving other Africans.
     
  15. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "mick"? I'm not privy to the racist terms Northerners use... :p
     
  16. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Irish. Should have never left 'them' in either (I kid I kid)
     
  17. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Well you didn't see native Americans used as slaves...they were here and disenfranchised...they would have been perfect..........but we didn't see that. No, we gave them alcohol and put them on the res.

    Erock, name a country with a majority African population, run by Africans that is a solid successful country.....

    And listen if some foreigners came over on a ship today and told me they need human labor, if I had the power I'd sell-off some of the people around here...no problem. Especially the Italians, well at least the ones who don't cook a mean pizza.....they can stay. Oh and the Puerto Ricans, I'd sell them for sure......

    Disclaimer: don't take everything serious people. I just love Puerto Ricans.....Italians are ok, I guess. Every old Italian guy thinks every mic is a cop.
     
  18. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    NO THEY SHOULDN"T HAVE.......I'd actually surf some quality waves if I was still in the motherland.......
     
  19. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Haha, thanks for clearing that up. They and the Polish are who I was referring to about white people hating white people based on ancestry.
     
  20. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    That's enough to make anyone bitter.