Yes or NO - global surf industries

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Big Wet Monster, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. Big Wet Monster

    Big Wet Monster Well-Known Member

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    Feb 4, 2010
    Over the years I have learned what a good board is and what isn't. I had bought a 7S shortboard years ago new for $350 and wondered why other boards were so much more... well 7s boards are popouts and not as quality as others. Fast forward to today.. I saw these numbers on the side of my SI screen...

    http://www.surfindustries.com/surfboards/7S-slipstream-cv.php

    Global surf sells boards from NSP but also Hayden so I am curious what the deal is.

    The 7s looks pretty. Notgunlie. This is the shape and setup Ive been looking for. Just bought a new stick so no need to try them out but wondered if anyone has seen this company improve on their products' quality or what their deal is?
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    BWM, get ready for a sh*t storm of responses, mostly negative. While i'm a big fan of going to your local shaper I do own a McTavish that was farmed out to GSI and it's been a staple in my quiver. It's a great board, has tons of mileage on it and is still in good shape. Only damage I put on it is my fault completely, but a little ding repair and back in the game. I would buy the same board again, because the price was right and I have certainly gotten my money's worth. Plus, most importantly, the board is a blast to surf.
     

  3. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Crespo?
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I was close HAHA, Coldest guy on SI.... I see what you did there
     
  5. garbanzobean

    garbanzobean Well-Known Member

    257
    Sep 15, 2010
    The only folks that will be bummed are shapers or friends of shapers. The GSI boards are fine and in the end it only matters to the surfer if it fits what they are looking to get from a board. They are cheap because of labor cost involved to manufacture. US and AUS are almost always made w/ a CNC machine which is figured into the cost and still requires 'merican time to run and finish. Materials are the same regardless of construction method but the american sander/laminator/fin installer/QC/ whatever guy has to make enough to keep doing it hence the higher price. And don't forget rent, insurance, taxes, cost of getting rid of waste -the list goes on. A microcosm of US manufacturing. It has become a cottage industry in the US more akin to fine cabinet making or specialty car or motorcycle parts. Hyandai, Honda, Ford or Chevrolet. Lifan, Kubota or Generac. But the mechanics (ding guys) always charge 'merican prices when you bust them up cause it is a service. All good to me. All boards are nothing but a good time. One thing for sure, the US made (or AUS) stuff sure doesn't last any longer than the asian stuff. The lifespan of the average lost, merrick, JS, rusty or etc. PU constructed board is short, really short if you use it a lot.
     
  6. GoodVibes

    GoodVibes Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    To each their own on their choice but there's nothing like putting your two cents and your shapers feedback on designing your new board.Its a very cool process to go through from beginning to end.
     
  7. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Fuk GSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuk GSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuk GSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuk GSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuk GSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuk GSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. live4truth

    live4truth Well-Known Member

    866
    Feb 9, 2007
    Honestly, my GSI hypto had a better finish than my custom Hayden (non-pureglass)...custom had some sand throughs and a lap bump near the nose. Still a great board...but a rushed finish. Still rides great...but the QC for the GSI seems to be top notch. Hayden seems like he has the best of both worlds with GSI--global distribution of his brand and his tech is being used by GSI in other designs...sounds like a great paycheck.

    Regardless, only issue with the GSI is the different type of eps foam they use. Seems like it is a lighter density than the custom hayden (could be the amotn of resin used). Regardless, I'd buy another GSI hypto...
     
  9. Big Wet Monster

    Big Wet Monster Well-Known Member

    938
    Feb 4, 2010
    I take it you don't like these boards? Sort of expected this response but still am surprised to see a "crappy" company using such next gen materials and approaches. They're still marketed along with NSP which is a dead giveaway for lack of quality.

     
  10. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    get a Quiet Flight...they're cheaper than the really big name brands, but still made here in the USA. Check Catalyst inventory and buy online.

    The other good thing about Quiet Flight is that every board is still shaped by Bruce Ragan. He shapes shapes all CJ Hobgood's world tour boards, so it's kinda like getting Al Merrick, Rusty, or Matt Biolos to personally shape your board...no ghost shapers...and definitely not some random worker who's never surfed nor has ever had any interest in surfing.
     
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  11. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    7s is sh!t, period. Why not go talk to Ashton?
     
  12. Big Wet Monster

    Big Wet Monster Well-Known Member

    938
    Feb 4, 2010
    talked to him recently. Seems pretty busy with orders! I am not buying a board anytime soon since I just sprang for a DHD pocketknife (fing sweet!) but... again.. was shocked at how appealling the 7s looked with the carbon stringerless look.

     
  13. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Whoa hang on, what's this DHD pocket knife? BWM you like steel?
     
  14. Big Wet Monster

    Big Wet Monster Well-Known Member

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    Feb 4, 2010
  15. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    this.
     
  16. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
  17. all4blues

    all4blues Well-Known Member

    260
    Dec 14, 2013
    Here it is. I support myself from money made locally from hand crafted boards so I guess you could say I'm partial to this . Local shapers are the backbone of the surf industry. They are the visionaries that literally, through blood, sweat, and tears have shaped the foundation for surfing to become the beast that it is today. Through intimate relationships with their local community, and feedback from riders whom they trust, they have helped debunk the mysteries of board design to help you and I have more fun in the water. Where do you think these cookie cutter companies get their templates from? CHINA DOES NOT GIVE A F*CK ABOUT YOU OR ANY PROBLEMS YOU ARE EXPERIENCING WITH YOUR EQUIPMENT. China does not want to build a working relationship with you with long term mutual growth in mind. China does not give me a paycheck every 2 weeks, keeping me alive, for helping direct people down the right path of achieving their vision of what surfing means to them. Think of overseas pop-outs as the means to an end and nothing more. China may offer you a reasonable price for your soul, but it's just not worth it. I implore you all to think before you buy because there will be long term consequences, and they include radically overpriced garbage and an automated 1-800 number in Mandarin. BUY LOCAL!
     
  18. Scobeyville

    Scobeyville Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2009
    You can get boards brand new for $380-$400. Find a shaper in your area, bring $400 cash on the 29-31 of any month and make an offer. Cash talks.

    I do have a pop out. I bought it off Whiskey. Its was $379 It lasted about 3 months. the deck looks like crap and i've had to get repair work on both rails. really bad glassing IMO..

    I have two Jay Novak shaped boards (AKA surfboards). The first one i bought 3 years ago when i moved to SD. It was my daily driver for the past 1,000 days. Just picked up a new 5'10 from him last week - hoping to get another 3 years out of that one!
     
  19. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
  20. all4blues

    all4blues Well-Known Member

    260
    Dec 14, 2013
    Exactly