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    You could argue about the two's talents, different players. The only thing I think Lebron does better than Jordan is block shots. Jordan really never got super aggressive that way. But in every other part of the game, I would have to give jordan the title. Better dunker. Better shooter. Quicker. More illusive. His step back fade away was ruthless. And more than anything, He won everything, everytime after a few years.

    People also compare their ages etc. You forget that Jordan Graduated from college AND won an NCAA title while getting an education. His rookie year, Lebron had already been in the league for 4 years.

    And the only reason I felt the need to have this argument/conversation is that from jump street, Lebron came into the league, calling himself the king (He made that up, not Nike). He wore #23, he did the chalk on the hands thing that was a Jordan original...

    From the gates, he showed the world he wanted to walk in Jordan's shoes. You know why Lebron changed his number from 23 to number 6 BEFORE he left Cleveland, cause he knew he was going to Miami, and the only other team that has the number #23 retired is the Miami heat. You want to know why? Pat Riley retired it out of respect for Michael Jordan, who never played for Miami, but Riley said that the best player to ever live should have his number retired in every arena...

    But I digress. I am just saying. He brought it on himself. His first year in the league, everyone put him and MJ in the same conversation because Lebron was constantly bringing it up. Jordan didn't like it to begin with. People have been comparing the two every year on ESPN. Most baketball analysts don't even regard the conversation. For NOW, the answer is simple. If that conversation should ever happen, we will have to wait years to see. If Lebron continues to flourish, win rings, clean up his shooting, then yeah, he could have a shot. But he is 4 rings shy of being able to even be compared, same generations or not. Winning is Winning. Not winning when it counts is not wining. He is going to have to put it all on the line and dominate. He needs to win a few Finals in 5 games and stop playing nice. He needs to be nasty on the court. All the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynj View Post
    You can't really compare different generations. The game changes.
    There are things Lebron does better and things MJ did better. It's impossible to say who is better.

    As far as the way Lebron carries himself. I disagree. He's done everything right except for one thing.
    You are obviously a fan. But when they polled the most hated athlete in the US, Lebron was #1. There is a reason for that. Whether I am wrong or right, way more people, right now dislike his attitude and the way he carries himself than not. Numbers never lie, right?

    But I Guarantee if tomorrow, you run that same poll, his ratings have already have sky rocketed in the last 2 hours. Like I said, what he did today, IMMEDIATELY made me show him respect, and actually want to root for him now.

    Read his letter. What he said was true sh** today. That he has lived with regrets this whole time, and how he never should have left because he meant so much to them. He said Ohio is where I walked, lived, breathed and cried. I am Ohio and Ohio is me. Real sh**. He cut the crap and told the truth. That was awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach619 View Post
    But hey, we can agree to disagree. Lebron is certainly fun to watch and I wish him well. Up until now, not so much.
    For sure, it's all debatable. I got no love for Kobe though, I respect his game, but I don't hold him up in the same regard. I think he's actually the one who tried being like Jordan, even went so far to try an emulate his mannerisms, gestures, post shot celebrations, tongue hanging out, all the sh*t. I bet he stands in front of a mirror and practices. And without Shaq (and Phil Jackson), dude only has 2 rings, not 5. But again, that's just one man's opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    For sure, it's all debatable. I got no love for Kobe though, I respect his game, but I don't hold him up in the same regard. I think he's actually the one who tried being like Jordan, even went to far to try an emulate his mannerisms, gestures, post shot celebrations, tongue hanging out, all the sh*t. I bet he stands in front of a mirror and practices. And without Shaq (and Phil Jackson), dude only has 2 rings, not 5. But again, that's just one man's opinion.
    True that. I can agree there. But with the Shaq comment, I also would say that is the reason Kobe just never got close enough to be in the best ever conversation, but with that rationale, those two rings in Miami don't really count either. There is some young talent in Cleveland, but this is a startup team, with no experience, so Lebron is on his own up there. Irving could be like the Pippen to Jordan, but Lebron is the only superstar on that squad now, just like MJ was.

    I used to not like Kobe, but I learned to love him. He is just such a d-bag sometimes, but in such a classy way. It's funny to me. And on the court, he holds people accountable and you can just see how competitive he is. That is one of the biggest things I remember about Jordan. His emotions. Not crying. Just effort and passion.

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    Not to make this thread even worse than it already is....

    One of the funniest moments I have ever seen in Basketball is when Jordan was at the freethrow line, he stopped and said "Hey, Mutombo. This one's for you", closed his eyes, smiled and then nothing but net and he laughed and trotted backwards down the court. That is the type of mental sh** that no one else has ever been able to pull off. So funny. So classic.

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    Bron is the most freakish athlete I have ever seen. He's Karl Malone's size and moves like a ****ing gazelle. He's the best individual player I have EVER seen. Michael would have had his hands full with LeBron and I think would have one at least one fewer championship if they played in the same era. We are witnesses (pun intended) to a freakish athlete that comes around every hundred years. It's our modern Babe Ruth. Just wait, there is more to come from this guy. I am an old guy saying this too. As much as I hate to say it, I think modern b-ball has surpassed 90's hoops. They are all just bigger faster stronger, period.

    That said, class move going back home. Bron Bron just needed his four years away from home, like college but with millions of dollars on South Beach.

    Oh and Jordan did not graduate prior to the NBA, he left as a sophmore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach619 View Post
    Not to make this thread even worse than it already is....

    One of the funniest moments I have ever seen in Basketball is when Jordan was at the freethrow line, he stopped and said "Hey, Mutombo. This one's for you", closed his eyes, smiled and then nothing but net and he laughed and trotted backwards down the court. That is the type of mental sh** that no one else has ever been able to pull off. So funny. So classic.
    Larry Legend was a superior **** talker too. He once gave his defender the play on a game winning shot and made the basket anyway. Mike J just wanted to rip out hearts. He's is the best I ever saw until I saw LeBron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    For sure, it's all debatable. I got no love for Kobe though, I respect his game, but I don't hold him up in the same regard. I think he's actually the one who tried being like Jordan, even went so far to try an emulate his mannerisms, gestures, post shot celebrations, tongue hanging out, all the sh*t. I bet he stands in front of a mirror and practices. And without Shaq (and Phil Jackson), dude only has 2 rings, not 5. But again, that's just one man's opinion.
    Kobe is way overrated. He doesn't make his teammates better. I don't think I'd put him on the Mount Rushmore of hoops. Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlin, Kareem, and Jordan. Bron will be there when he retires, no room for Kobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach619 View Post
    Not to make this thread even worse than it already is....

    One of the funniest moments I have ever seen in Basketball is when Jordan was at the freethrow line, he stopped and said "Hey, Mutombo. This one's for you", closed his eyes, smiled and then nothing but net and he laughed and trotted backwards down the court. That is the type of mental sh** that no one else has ever been able to pull off. So funny. So classic.
    Yeah one of the best moments of his career for sure, hilarious. I love that kind of arrogance, because he could back it up.

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    Magic Johnson was better than Kobe hands down, not even a question.