Artificial Islands off NJ/NY

Think someone posted earlier in the week...thread summary: dumb idea, too costly, don't worry b/c it probly won't happen.

 

http://www.swellinfo.com/forum/show...idering-to-build-artificial-islands-off-NJ-NY

 

In a hypothetical situation, if this project was given serious consideration, I think this ^^^ will trump any of the benefits, can't stop the surge and flooding.

 

It would stop ALL swell. The islands are less than 20 miles offshore. 8-10 second period swell has to be generated from a MUCH larger area than that. It would be as flat as a lake. It would have about the same wave action as long island sound. For this reason alone(people want a real ocean) I don't think is likely to happen. There's so much red tape out there(environmental groups/surfrider/people/tourists who want to visit an ocean/property owners who want a real ocean) that I can't see something like this happening. It's a nutcase idea.

 

Exactly.
Look what happened to CT shoreline from sandy!!! And their totally blocked in with long island sound.

 

Time to get a BOAT

Bust
Out
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Let's keep building on the existing thread on this topic. It had potential to start mackin into one of SI's better threads. Further posts on this one is promoting a disorganized state of the forum waves.

 

I think artifical island would benefit both mankind and fish for habitats and recreation. I am for isalnd creation!

 

i know blumberg he's an idiot. He's talking out of his ass. This won't happen. don't get me wrong though i'm all for spitting barrels on uninhabited islands, just don't see this happening.

 

I think this is a pretty bad idea. Sure it has the potential to protect the mainland from wave damage but I think it would create problems that coastal areas would deal with daily: Erosion.

I think man-made islands this close to the coast would act as funnels and strip the existing beaches of their sand faster than the next 100 year hurricane could dream of doing.

 

YES! Finally somebody is talking some sense in this thread! In my book, island creation = job creation! The only issue I have is the limited scope and vision of the original idea.

I propose that the island chain be extended from Maine down the entire East coast around the tip of Florida and continue along the Gulf coast to where Texas borders Mexico. This will provide multiple benefits to all. Hurricanes and tropical storms will be stopped dead in their tracks. With a bit of 'Merikan ingenuity we could probably keep all the sharks out to sea as well. We can designate these islands as official Piping Plover habitat and do away with that issue too. It will enhance the security of our borders by keeping pirates and brown people on rafts at bay. Lastly, we can relocate the Keystone XL pipeline from the middle of the country to these islands and run it straight to the refineries on the Gulf. No more Negative Nancies screaming NIMBY. It won't be in anybody's back yard! Once we get the Kock brothers behind this thing it is going to fly, I tell ya. I see nothing but win, win, win, win!


FLY A BANNER FOR ISLAND CREATION!!!
This is the stupidest shoreline negineering idea I have ever seen!

 

This idea is perfect for marooning all these damn midgets we have crawling around here.

 

lol

it will never happen

 

The opportunity is many. Creation of kickstarter is imminent, will you join this cause?

 

um, not totally. halloween storm (was it 1991??) connecticut pumped many spots.

 

You got no clue dog. An 8 second period swell will not be generated from a distance of 10-15 miles. That's all you have to work with. Only CHOP(period less than 5 seconds will be created) and that will die out almost immediately once the winds go offshore. That's why long island sound has no waves. And neither do the great lakes. It's not a large enough area to create 8-10 second energy with offshore winds.(those video's you see of lake superior rideable are the once a year for a few hours if you're lucky)


An 8 second swell come from hundreds of miles away. The period is determined by how large of a fetch the wind is blowing over. Not how far away it came from. Obviously though ground swells decay less and can come from THOUSANDS of miles away. If you have a good wind fetch for a low pressure system a 100 miles off hatteras, you will get a 8-10 seconds period swell on nj. If you have those islands, you'll get NOTHING. The waves(short period wind swell) will smash into the islands. And it will be a little unrideable chop inside that on nj shore.