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  1. #11
    thats weird, i havent seen that on any of my chem'

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Monterey, CA
    Just like with any type of board, outline shape can play a major role in how the board will function. Fish generally have very parallel straight outlines which makes them go fast down the line but they don't like to change direction. I make all my small wave quads fairly full with plenty of volume but the outlines are curvy. This makes them much more responsive off the top. You want to find a small wave shape that works well when the waves get good so avoid those wide noses. Keep the volume in the middle and tail areas. You are right about getting your back foot back over the front fins, but don't neglect the front foot. Small quads work best with a wide stance with the back foot right over the front fins and the front foot well forward and more front foot pressure than you might be used to on your thruster. This will give you more control when things get more serious.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by numbone View Post
    the tron is a super fun board for me,like they said that might be a little high in vol for u to rip on.maybe real good for going fast on real small mushy waves though,dont give up on it yet,get some smaller fins maybe
    Get some smaller trailers for your quad and it will loosen right up for you buddy. I have 4.5" up front with 3.5" trailers. Used to have 4.25" trailers, the new fins made the board a lot more fun for me, and not a big difference in size. LB crew could probably explain why this works, all I know is that it does work, and it works GREAT.

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Crystal Coast,N.C.
    Quote Originally Posted by mattybrews View Post
    Luckily for me it's written on the board

    Additionally, took it out again today and just concentrated on my foot placement the whole time. My pop ups have just been sloppy. Once I started consistently landing my back foot over the fins the board magically became so much more responsive. Really responsive. It turns pretty quickly! Definitely a bit different feel than a tri-fin, but worth getting used to.

    Keep at it!! Fell in love with quads the first time on one and that's all I ride now. Just keep thinking about the back foot and you'll never have turning problems. If it still feels skatey you need to change the rear fins as they would be to small. One of my favorite fins for a quad fish are FCS TC Aqualines. Very responsive and quick turns when you're heavy on the back foot. If you don't want to spend the money SF 4's are cheap and give you an all around good ride.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    in the grace of the most holy FSM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kahuna Kai View Post
    Get some smaller trailers for your quad and it will loosen right up for you buddy. I have 4.5" up front with 3.5" trailers. Used to have 4.25" trailers, the new fins made the board a lot more fun for me, and not a big difference in size. LB crew could probably explain why this works, all I know is that it does work, and it works GREAT.
    3/4" is a HUGE difference in fin size! if you're riding 4.5" fronts, i'm not surprised the 4.25" rears were too much!

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by waterbaby View Post
    A lesser factor may also be the fins. Are you sure your fins are the right ones for that particular board? I personally hate messing with fins...even on a tri (quads are even more confusing). I usually just use the fins that came with the board direct from the shaper.
    I, too, woulId try messing with the fins. I'd start by taking out the rears on the quad, throw the biggest set of side fins I have in the front boxes, and ride it as a twin. The Future T1's are perfect for figuring out how to loosen up a stiff board. Too loose? Put some small rears in. Don't have any? Bust out the Dremel tool and hack down some old composite fins until I have what I want.
    The same thing can be done with thrusters. If its too tight, I'll throw a small center fin in to loosen it up. I've learned over the years that changing up the fins can turn a board that is just okay into something that works really well for me.

  7. hey Matty, just a hunch but you may have to take a little different approach to your "surfing" than you normally would on your regular shortboard. i know for myself, i ride a little 5'4" twin-fin a lot (just a board i don't mind beating up; trying to prolong the life of my actual good wave board) and i've found that i have to surf it much differently than what i was accustomed to. maybe you can try using the "less is more" approach... meaning once you've popped up, just try staying still over your board. maybe instead of instantly trying to pump down the line (unless that's what the wave is calling for,) you can just kind of hover there a few extra seconds, and allow the wave to do some of the work for you. you know, if you're taking off in a mushy peak, but you can see that the wave is going to steepen up on down the line... just chill a bit longer than you normally would, and then start getting busy once the wave allows for it. i've got a friend that is a master at this; he just keeps his board "tic-tacking" rail to rail, but he's not actually doing anything... all he's doing is "holding back" until the wave steepens up and allows for him to do whatever it is he wants to try. i know for myself, i basically mimic what he does (although i'm not nearly as efficient,) but i'll basically just stand still over my board, up until i get the notion that the wave is going to allow me to do something on it.

    also, i would try riding that quad in lots of different conditions: when it's good, bad, and ugly. that 5'4" i was telling you about, i got it for crappy waves... well, much to my amusement, the board doesn't go that well in extremely mushy waves. if there's a steepness to it, it will. but pure mush? not so much. the board actually goes the best in good waves, and i don't hesitate to ride it almost all of the time.

    i've found, for extremely gutless, crap waves... you're better off on a longboard.

    best wishes to you

  8. #18
    that's what she said. keep at it man if you are basing this off one session I bet its just something that's going to take some more time getting used to.

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Thanks for all the encouraging help guys. I'd taken it out a few times before posting this, but all of your advice has really paid off this past weekend. I feel like I've become a lot more in tune with the board and how it handles. Had some nice clean, 3-4' steep waves today that were loads of fun with this board. I'm definitely happy with it after this weekend, and especially this morning

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    quads are good in good waves, but so is everything. for me, they go better with a little open face where you can really surf off your rails. rear fin placement/toe/cant is key. pinched rails go good on quads in good waves. for sh!t waves, love some low, boxy rails. not to much bottom tuck and a crisp edge run up roughly 20" off the tail.